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1 >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

2 THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

3 MY NAME IS RICHARD HORNE AND I'M A SENIOR POLICY

4 ADVISOR WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL TASK FORCE ON ADULTS

5 WITH DISABILITIES.

6 TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYMENT

7 POLICY IN REGARDS TO INCREASING THE EMPLOYMENT OF

8 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITYS IN THE FEDERAL WORK FORCE.

9 AND WITH US WE'VE GOT A GREAT PANEL OF FOLKS WHO I'VE

10 HAD A GREAT PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH.

11 GENE GOALBERG, DINAH COHEN IS WITH US FROM THE CAP

12 PROGRAM AT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

13 WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A BROAD RANGE OF POLICIES

14 AND PRACTICES AND REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS AND

15 TECHNOLOGY AND COVER A HOST OF DIFFERENT ISSUES AND

16 WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PANEL FIRST, AND THEN

17 WE'RE GOING TO TO ALLOW FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

18 UNLESS YOU HAVE A BURNING QUESTION, THEN WAVE YOUR

19 HANDS UP AND WE'RE WE'LL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

20 SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT RIGHT IMMEDIATELY TO...

21 >> GOOD MORNING.

22 S AS RICHARD MENTIONED I'M AN ATTORNEY AT THE EEOC.

23 I'VE BEEN THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND PRIOR TO

24 THAT I WAS IN PRACTICE FOR 10 YEARS DOING PRIMARILY

25 EEO LITIGATION.


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1 WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS A TOPIC THAT

2 MANY OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IN PART WHICH IS

3 FOLLOWING THE PRESIDENTIAL TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION

4 PRESIDENT CLINTON ISSUED ON JULY 26, 2000 EXECUTIVE

5 ORDER 136 FOUR, WHICH FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME ALL

6 FEDERAL AGENCIES INSTITUTE PROCEDURES FOR PROCESSING

7 REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS UNDER SECTION 501

8 OF THE REHAB ACT.

9 PRIOR TO THAT TIME SOME AGENCIES HAD PROCEDURES, SOME

10 DIDN'T SOME HAD POLICIES BUT NOT PROCEDURES, WHICH

11 EXPLAINS TO THE EMPLOYERS AND MANAGERS EXACTLY WHAT

12 TO DO WHEN RECEIVING A REQUEST AND WHAT THE

13 REQUIREMENTS OF THE REHABILITATION ACT ARE.

14 WITHOUT OVERSTATING THE CASE, I THINK WE'VE TRULY

15 SEEN IN THE IMPLEMENTATION SO FAR THAT THIS ONE AND A

16 HALF PAGE EXECUTIVE ORDER PROMISES TO BE A REAL GIANT

17 STEP IN BOTH EXPANDING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR

18 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND IN TERMS OF ENSURING

19 COMPLIANCE WITH NONDISCRIMINATION LAW.

20 IT'S BASED ON ONE SIMPLE CONCEPT WHICH IS HELP ENSURE

21 THAT EMPLOYEES AT FEDERAL AGENCY KNOW HOW TO MAKE

22 ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS AND THAT SUPERVISORS AND

23 MANAGERS KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY RECEIVE ONE.

24 THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IS STRUCTURED TO ALLOW GREAT

25 LATITUDE FOR AGENCIES TO DEVISE PROCEDURE COMES FIT


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1 THEIR OWN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

2 THE EXECUTIVE ORDER SIMPLY MANDATES THAT THERE ARE 10

3 COMMON ELEMENTS WHICH MUST BE PRESENT IN EACH

4 AGENCY'S PROCEDURES.

5 AND OTHERWISE THEY LEAVE IT TO THE AGENCY TO DRAFT

6 SOMETHING THAT SUITS ITS OWN NEEDS.

7 THE MANDATORY ELEMENTS INCLUDE AN EXPLANATION FOR HOW

8 ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS OCCUR INITIATEED AND HOW

9 THEY'LL BE PROCESSED.

10 TIME LIMITS FOR PROCESSING REQUESTS, AN EXPLANATION

11 OF WHEN AND HOW MUCH MEDICAL INFORMATION AN AGENCY

12 CAN OBTAIN WHEN PROCESSING A REASONABLE ACOMMENDATION

13 REQUEST AND CONFIDENTIALITY RESTRICTIONS THAT APPLY

14 TO ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT IS OBTAINED DURING THE

15 ACCOMMODATION PROCESS.

16 AN EXPLANATION OF REASSIGNMENT AS THE ACCOMMODATION

17 OF LAST RESORT, AND A REQUIREMENT THAT DENIALS OF

18 REASONABLE,A COMMENDATION BE IN WRITING, SPECIFYING

19 THE REASONS FOR DENIAL AND EXPLAINING TO THE PLANT

20 FOR WAYS IN WHICH THEY CAN FILE FOR RECONSIDERATION

21 OR FILE AN EEO COMPLAINT.

22 THERE ARE ALSO VARIOUS RECORD KEEPING REQUIREMENTS

23 AND FINALLY A REQUIREMENT THAT THE PROCEDURES IN SOME

24 WAY ENCOURAGE THE DISPUTE RESOLUTION WHETHER IT'S IN

25 A RECONSIDERATION PROCESS OR WHETHER IT'S IN TERMS OF


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1 TRADITIONAL ADR.

2 AS IS REQUIRED UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, ON OCTOBER

3 20, 2000 THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION ISSUED A

4 POLICY GUIDANCE DOCUMENT ENTITLED ESTABLISHING

5 PROCEDURES TO FACILITATE THE PROCEDURES OF REASONABLE

6 ACCOMODATION.

7 AND THIS IS INTENDED AS A PRACTICAL GUIDE FOR

8 AGENCIES IN FOLLOWING IN PREPARING THEIR PROCEDURES

9 UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.

10 IT EXPLAINS THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IN VERY PRACTICAL AND

11 SPECIFIC TERMS, AND IT LEAVES THE EXECUTIVE ORDER

12 REQUIREMENTS TOGETHER WITH THE INFORMATION UNDER EACH

13 TOPIC IN TERMS OF WHAT THE REHABILITATION ACT HAS

14 ALREADY BEEN INTERPRETED TO REQUIRE IN OTHER

15 GUIDANCES IN DECISIONS, IN THE FEDERAL SECTOR THAT

16 HAVE BEEN ISSUED BY THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY IN EEO

17 COMPLAINTS.

18 IT'S TELLS THE AGENCY EVERYTHING IT WOULD NEED TON IN

19 PREPARING ITS OWN REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION

20 PROCEDURES.

21 YOU CAN FIND THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL AS ANYTHING AND

22 EVERYTHING ELSE YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT

23 EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION UNDER THE REHABILITATION

24 ACT AND ALSO EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION LAW UNDER ALL

25 THE OTHER STATUTES THAT THE EEOC ENFORCES ON OUR WEB


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1 SITE SINCE I ONLY HAVE 12 MINUTES I'M GOING TO PUT MY

2 COMMERCIAL PLUG RIGHT UP HERE AT THE FRONT.

3 OUR WEB SET IS WWW.EEOC.GOV.

4 AND PLEASE BEAR WITH ME WHILE I SHARE WITH YOU TWO

5 STEPS ON HOW TO ACCESS THIS INFORMATION ONCE YOU LOG

6 ON TO WWW.EEOC.GOFF.

7 SCROLL DOWN ON THE LEFT SIDE AND CLICK ON LAWS,

8 REGULATIONS AND POLICY GUIDANCE AND THEN CLICK ON THE

9 HEADING ENFORCEMENT GUIDANCE AND RELATED DOCUMENTS.

10 AND THERE AS I SAID I THINK YOU'LL FIND A VIRTUAL

11 TREASURE TROVE OF ALL THE STATUTES WE ENFORCE IN

12 ADDITION TO THE OCTOBER 20, 2000, THERE ARE TWO VERY

13 IMPORTANT POLICY GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS ON THAT SPOT IN

14 OUR WEB SITE WHICH IF YOU DO ANY WORK IN THE

15 REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION AREA, I WOULD COMMEND TO YOU

16 TO PRINT OUT TO YOU TO THEY'RE A GREAT DESK REFERENCE

17 FOR SUPERVISORS, MANAGERS, OR ANYONE ELSE.

18 ONE IS OUR JULY 272000 ENFORCEMENT GUIDANCE ON

19 DISABILITY INQUIRYS AND MEDICAL EXAMS.

20 TELLS YOU ALL THE RULES ON WHEN AND HOW AN EMPLOYER

21 CAN ASK AN EMPLOYEE TO DO A MEDICAL EXAM.

22 THE SECOND ONE IS OUR MARCH 1, 1999 ENFORCEMENT

23 GUIDANCE ON REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION AND UNDUE

24 HARDSHIP.

25 THAT REALLY REVIEWS FROM A SUBSTANTIVE PERSPECTIVE


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1 THE LAW ON THIS AREA.

2 THAT'S THE END OF THE COMMERCIAL MESSAGE.

3 THE EXECUTIVE ORDER ALSO REQUIRING THAL ALL AGENCIES

4 ACTUALLY SUBMIT THESE PROCEDURES ONCE THEY'RE

5 PROMULGATED TO THE EEOC AND THAT WAS TO HAVE BEEN

6 DONE BY THIS PAST JULY 26.

7 TO DATE WE'VE RECEIVED PROCEDURES FROM ABOUT HALF OF

8 THE FEDERAL AGENCIES OVER WHICH WE HAVE JURISDICTION

9 ALTHOUGH THEY STILL COMING IN ON A ROLLING BASIS, SO

10 I HOPE AND EXPECT THAT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF

11 MONTHS WE'LL HAVE THEM ALL.

12 AND A UNIT WITHIN THE OFFICE OF FEDERAL OPERATIONS AT

13 THE EEOC IS REVIEWING EACH AGENCY'S SUBMISSION. AND

14 WE'RE PREPARING A FEEDBACK LETTER TO EACH AGENCY AND

15 THESE HAVE BEGUN TO GUT G OUT ON A ROLLING BASIS.

16 MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR MODIFYING THE PROCEDURES.

17 WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT NOW AND REALLY FOCUS ON

18 MY TALK TODAY IS THE TRENDS WE'VE SEEN SO FAR IN OUR

19 REVIEW OF THE AGENCY PROCEDURES WE'VE RECEIVED.

20 THERE ARE SOME VERY INTERESTING POINTS AND OVERALL

21 AGENCIES HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE

22 SEEN.

23 THE FIRST INTERESTING THING WE'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF

24 THE REQUIREMENT IN THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT EVERY

25 AGENCY MAKE CLEAR IN HIS PROCEDURES THAT AN


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1 ACCOMODATION REQUEST BE MADE EITHER ORALLY OR IN

2 WRITING.

3 I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY SIMPLE RULE BUT IT'S

4 PROVEN VEXING FOR AGENCIES IN TERMS OF PREPARING A

5 WORKABLE PROCEDURE BECAUSE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER STATES

6 AN AGENCY MUST ACCEPT ORAL REQUEST FOR ACCOMMODATION,

7 BUT IT ALSO STATES THAT AN AGENCY CAN REQUIRE AN

8 INDIVIDUAL WHO'S REQUESTING ACCOMMODATION TO COMPLETE

9 A WRITTEN FORM FOR RECORD KEEPING PURPOSES.

10 WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT WHILE AN AGENCY CAN REQUIRE

11 AN INDIVIDUAL COMPLETE A RECORD KEEPING FORM OR

12 SUBMIT SOME TYPE OF WRITTEN CONFIRMATION OF THEIR

13 REQUEST, THE AGENCY CAN'T WAIT UNTIL AFTER IT'S

14 GOTTEN THAT WRITTEN FORM BEFORE IT BEGINS TO PROCESS

15 AN ACCOMMODATION Q. AN ORAL REQUEST IS THE SAME AS A

16 WRITTEN ONE AND THE PROCESSING MUST BEGIN AS SOON AS

17 IT'S RECEIVED.

18 IT'S A VIABLE REQUEST.

19 AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT AGENCIES HAVE PREPARED

20 THESE PROCEDURES, THEY HAVE ATTACHED A CONFIRMATION

21 RECORD KEEPING FORM TO THE PROCEDURES WHICH THEY

22 REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO FILL OUT AFTER MAKING AN ORAL

23 REQUEST, BUT THE FORM ITSELF HAS EXCEEDED THAT

24 ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD KEEPING PURPOSE THAT'S ALLOWED.

25 SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS IN ONE PLACE ON ONE PAGE IN AN


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1 AGENCY'S PROCEDURES THEY STATE THE GENERAL RULE, ORAL

2 REQUESTS FOR ACCOMMODATION ARE PERMISSIBLE, WE WILL

3 PROCESS THEM.

4 AND THEN ELSEWHERE IS ATTACHED A RECORD KEEPING FORM

5 THAT HAS TO BE COMPLETED WHICH BASICALLY SAYS THAT

6 NOTHING WILL HAPPEN UNTIL THE FORM IS RECEIVED.

7 SO IT'S TANTAMOUNT TO REQUIRING A WRITTEN REQUEST

8 BEFORE ANY ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.

9 OR WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT AN AGENCY'S PROCEDURES

10 HAVE INCORRECTLY REQUIRED THAT IF AN EMPLOYEE

11 REQUESTS AN ACCOMMODATION WHICH THEY'RE LIKELY TO

12 NEED ON A RECURRING BASIS, FOR INSTANCE A SIGN

13 LANGUAGE INTERPRETER THAT THE FORM SEEMS TO INDICATE

14 THAT THE EMPLOYEE WILL NEED TO SUBMIT THE FORM EVERY

15 TIME AN ACCOMMODATION IS UTILIZED.

16 OR ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT WE'VE SEEN IS AGENCIES

17 IMPROPERLY USING THIS RECORD KEEPING FORM TO GO

18 BEYOND MAKING A RECORD OF THE ACCOMMODATION REQUEST

19 AND REALLY ACTUALLY ASKING ALL MANNER OF INFORMATION

20 ON THE FORM ABOUT THE DISABILITY, AUTOMATICALLY

21 ASKING FOR SUPPORTING MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION AND GOING

22 BEYOND WHAT IS PERMITTED WHICH LEADS ME TO THE NEXT

23 ISSUE WHICH IS THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS REQUIREMENT THAT

24 THE AGENCY'S PROCEDURES MAY NOT ALLOW THE AGENCY TO

25 OBTAIN MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION IN SUPPORT OF EVERY


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1 SINGLE ACCOMMODATION REQUEST REGARDLESS OF THE

2 CIRCUMSTANCES.

3 MENT THE AGENCY'S PROCEDURES HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT THE

4 AGENCY CAN ONLY REQUEST SUPPORTING MEDICAL

5 DOCUMENTATION WHERE THE DISABILITY AND/OR THE NEED

6 FOR THE REQUESTED ACCOMMODATION IS NOT OBVIOUS OR

7 ALREADY KNOWN TO THE AGENCY.

8 SO CLEARLY AN AGENCY IS ENTITLED OF COURSE IN EVERY

9 INSTANCE BEFORE GRANTING AN ACCOMODATION REQUEST TO

10 KNOW THAT AN INDIVIDUAL IS COVERED BY THE

11 REHABILITATION ACT, THAT THEY HAVE A PHYSICALO MENTAL

12 IMPAIRMENT WHICH ESSENTIALLY LIMITS THEM IN A MAJOR

13 LIFE ACTIVITY OR THAT THEY HAVE A RECORD OF SUCH AND

14 THAT THEY NEED THE ACCOMMODATION THEY'VE REQUESTED,

15 IN OTHER WORDS THAT IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE FOR THEM.

16 BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN MANY INSTANCES AGAIN IS THAT

17 THE PROCEDURES IN ONE PLACE STATE THIS GENERAL RULE

18 QUITE CORRECTLY AND THEN ELSEWHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE

19 PREPRINTED FORM SAYS IT'S A ONE SIZE FITS ALL TYPE OF

20 FORM AND SAYS ATTACH SUPPORTING MEDICAL

21 DOCUMENTATION.

22 AND OBVIOUSLY THE AGENCY CAN'T DO THIS IN PART

23 BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SITUATIONS WHERE THE

24 DISABILITY AND THE NEED FOR ACCOMMODATION ARE ALREADY

25 KNOWN TO THE AGENCY OR THEY ARE OBVIOUS BASED ON THE


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1 PRESENTATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL REQUESTING

2 ACCOMMODATION AND SO NO MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION CAN BE

3 REQUESTED.

4 ALTERNATIVELY, EVEN IF IT'S A SITUATION

5 WHERE MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION CAN BE REQUESTED AND THIS

6 IS TERRIBLY IMPORTANT, THE AGENCY IS NOT GOING TO BE

7 ENTITLED TO SEEK THE VERY SAME MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION

8 IN EVERY SITUATION.

9 THE TYPE OF MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION OR THE EXTENT OF

10 MEDICAL INFORMATION WHICH CAN BE SOUGHT IS GOING TO

11 DIFFER IN EVERY CASE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE

12 INDIVIDUAL'S SITUATION IS, WHAT IS ALREADY KNOWN TO

13 THE AGENCY, WHAT ACCOMMODATION THEY'RE REQUESTING,

14 AND SO THE REQUEST FOR MEDICAL INFORMATION IN SUPPORT

15 OF THE ACOMMENDATION REQUEST IF THE AGENCY DOES MAKE

16 IT, HAS TO BE TAILORED, INDIVIDUALIZED TO THE PERSON

17 REQUESTING ACCOMMODATION.

18 I SHOULD NOTE THAT MANY AGENCIES IN THEIR PROCEDURES

19 HAVE DONE WHAT THE EEOC HAS DONE IN OUR OWN

20 PROCEDURES WHICH IS TO PROVIDE THAT IF THE SUPERVISOR

21 OR MANAGER WHO'S PROCESSING THIS ACCOMMODATION

22 REQUEST HAS ANY QUESTION AT ALL ABOUT WHETHER THIS

23 PERSON IS AN INDIVIDUAL WITH A DISABILITY, IS

24 ENTITLED TO ACCOMMODATION UNDER THE REHAB ACT, THEY

25 REFER THE WHOLE MATTER TO THE DISABILITY PROGRAM


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1 MANAGER, OR SOME AGENCIES HAVE CREATED A POSITION

2 LIKE THAT, AND THAT PERSON CREATES THE WHOLE THING IN

3 TERMS OF DECIDING WHETHER MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION IS

4 NEEDED, MAKING THE DETERMINATION IF THE PERSON IS

5 COVERED.

6 ONCE THAT DETERMINATION IS MADE, REFERRING IT BACK TO

7 THE DECISION MAKER ON THE ACCOMMODATION REQUEST SO

8 YOU DON'T HAVE FRONT LEAN SUPERVISORS HAVING TO

9 NECESSARILY MAKE CALLS THEY MIGHT NOT FEEL

10 COMFORTABLE MAKING AND HAVING THAT RESOURCE AVAILABLE

11 IS GREAT.

12 IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT AGENCIES DO IT IN THAT MANNER

13 AND IN FACT WE ENCOURAGE AGENCIES TO AUTHORIZE THEIR

14 FRONT LINE SUPERVISORS TO PROCESS THE WHOLE REQUEST

15 IF POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE THINGS, BUT IN

16 GENERAL TERMS MANY AGENCIES HAVE DECIDED TO -- WE'VE

17 ALSO SEEN THAT MANY AGENCIES THAT DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY

18 HAVE ANY TYPE OF DISABILITY PROGRAM MANAGER OR

19 REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION COORDINATORVILLE CREATED

20 THAT POSITION AS A RESULT OF HAVING TO INSTITUTE

21 THESE PROCEDURES AND THAT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL

22 DEVELOPMENT SIMPLY EVEN TO HAVE THAT PERSON AS A

23 RESOURCE EVEN IF THE PERSON DOESN'T HAVE A FORMAL

24 ROLE IN PROCESSING A REQUEST.

25 THE NEXT REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE AGENCY DESIGNATE A


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1 TIME PERIOD FOR PROCESSING ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS.

2 AND THE A PARTICULAR TIME LIMIT IS NOT SPECIFIED IN

3 THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.

4 TIME LIMITS HAVE TO BE AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE.

5 IN REVIEWING WHAT'S COME IN SO FAR FROM AGENCIES,

6 THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE SUBMISSION IN WHICH WE'VE

7 TOLD AGENCY THAT TIME FRAME THEY'VE A LOTED

8 THEMSELVES IS TOO LONG.

9 THE KIND OF FEEDBACK, HOWEVER, THAT WE HAVE GIVEN

10 AGENCYS ON TIME FRAMES THEY'VE SELECTED IN GENERAL

11 HAS BEEN FOR EXAMPLE WHERE AN AGENCY HAD DESIGNED ITS

12 TIME FRAME TO RUN FROM THE TIME THE DECISION MAKER

13 GETS THE REQUEST.

14 WELL, OFTEN A REQUEST FOR ACCOMMODATION IS MADE TO

15 SOME OTHER AGENCY OFFICIAL.

16 IT MIGHT HAVE GONE TO THE EEO OFFICE, IT MIGHT HAVE

17 GONE TO SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, AND IT

18 HAS TO BE REFERRED TO WHOEVER IS DESIGNATED UNDER THE

19 PROCEDURES TO PROCESS THE REQUEST.

20 SO WE'VE ADVISED AGENCIES PUT A TIME FRAME IN IN

21 REFERRING A REQUEST TO THE DECISION MAKER SO THAT THE

22 ENTIRE PROCESS KEEPS MOVING ALONG ANDING IN NOTHING

23 GETS LOST IN THE CRACKS.

24 AND WE HAVE ALSO SUGGESTED THAT IN SOME SITUATIONS

25 AGENCIES HAVE EXEMPTED FROM THEIR TIME FRAMES


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1 ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS WHERE MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION

2 NEEDS TO BE INVOLVE EVALUATED.

3 AND OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN'T HAVE A TIME LIMIT FOR A

4 WHOLE CATEGORY OF ACCOMMODATION REQUEST.

5 BUT WHAT WE'VE SUGGESTED IS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO

6 TOLL THE TIME FRAME WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR AT

7 DOCUMENTATION FROM A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER BBUT AS

8 SOON AS THEY'VE GOTTEN WHAT'S APPROPRIATE THEN THEY

9 HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT'S PREDETERMINED IN

10 WHICH TO RENDER THEIR DECISION, AGAIN TO KEEP THEIR

11 WHOLE THING MOVING ALONG.

12 WE HAVE NOTED IN OUR FEEDBACK LETTERS TO AGENCIES

13 THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TIME FRAME DESIGNATED

14 IN THEIR PROCEDURES AND JUST BECAUSE A SUPERVISOR OR

15 MANAGER COMPLIES WITH THAT TIME FRAME, THAT DOESN'T

16 ENSURE THAT THE REHABILITATION ACT WON'T HAVE BEEN

17 VIOLATED BECAUSE THERE ARE OF COURSE SOME

18 ACOMMENDATIONS WHICH CAN BE PROVIDED IN LESS TIME.

19 THERE ARE SOME ACCOMMODATIONS THAT CAN BE PROVIDED IN

20 AN HOUR OR A DAY OR THREE DAYS, SO THE REHABILITATION

21 ACT STILL REMAINING THE GOVERNING STANDARD IN TERMS

22 OF ASSESSING WHETHER THERE'S BEEN SOME KIND OF UNDUE

23 DELAY THAT REALLY WAS NOT DUE TO ANY EXTENUATING

24 CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND THE AGENCY'S CONTROL IN

25 PROCESSING THE REQUEST.


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1 AND OF COURSE JUST TO REMIND AGENCIES THAT

2 SUPERVISORS AND MANAGERS NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT TO

3 KEEP EVERYTHING MOVING.

4 ANOTHER REQUIREMENT UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IS THAT

5 THE PROCEDURES ADDRESS HOW REASSIGNMENT WILL --

6 SEARCHES AS REASSIGNMENT WILL OCCUR.

7 AGENCIES HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN ADDRESSING THIS

8 PROPERLY IN MANY OF THE PROCEDURES WE'VE SEEN

9 PROVIDING THAT THE SEARCH FOR REASSIGNMENT HAS TO BE

10 NATIONWIDE INCLUDING OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE AGENCY,

11 OTHER GEOGRAPHIC AREAS UNLESS IT WOULD POSE AN UNDUE

12 HARDSHIP.

13 THIS IS REALLY, I HAVE TO UNDERSCORE, AN EXCELLENT

14 DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IN THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS THE

15 COMMISSION HAS ISSUED MANY APPELLATE DECISIONS ON

16 FEDERAL SECTOR EEO COMPLAINTS FINDING LIABILITY UNDER

17 THE REHAB ACT BECAUSE A SUPERVISOR OR MANAGER SIMPLY

18 DIDN'T KNOW, I'M SURE THEY DIDN'T INTEND BUT JUST

19 DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAD TO LOOK OUTSIDE THEIR OWN

20 FACILITY FOR A POSSIBLE VACANT FACILITY TO ASSIGN

21 SOMEONE OR OUTSIDE THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

22 AND SO THIS IS REALLY I THINK IMPORTANT.

23 ALSO BECAUSE MANY SUPERVISORS AND MANAGERS ARE SIMPLY

24 UNAWARE THAT THEY EVEN HAD TO CONSIDER REASSIGNMENT

25 AS AN ACCOMMODATION OF LAST RESORT EVEN WHERE THE


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1 INDIVIDUAL DIDN'T REQUEST THAT AS THEIR

2 ACCOMMODATION.

3 THEY MIGHT HAVE REQUESTED SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THAT

4 SOMETHING ELSE WOULD POSE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP OR FOR

5 SOME REASON CAN'T BE DONE, A LOT OF SUPERVISORS OR

6 MANAGERS HAVEN'T KNOWN THAT THEY NEED TO CONSIDER IF

7 THE PERSON CAN'T PERFORM THEIR CURRENT POSITION

8 BECAUSE OF THEIR DISABILITY.

9 IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO ELIMINATE MANY, MANY

10 VIOLATIONS OF THE FACT THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND IN THE

11 PAST THAT WERE THE RESULTS SIMPLY OF LACK OF

12 KNOWLEDGE ON THE PART OF MANAGERSES AND SUPERVISORS.

13 AND LASTLY, AS I SAID THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RECORD

14 KEEPING REQUIREMENTS IN THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND IN

15 PARTICULAR AGENCY PROCEDURES NEED TO SPELL OUT

16 CONFIDENTIALITY REQUIREMENTS FOR MEDICAL INFORMATION.

17 MANY AGENCY SUBMISSIONS WE'VE RECEIVED HAVE PROPERLY

18 IDENTIFIED THAT MEDICAL INFORMATION RECEIVED,

19 DOCUMENTATION OR OTHER KIND OF INFORMATION NOTES

20 ABOUT MEDICAL CONDITIONS CAN'T BE IN THE PERSONNEL

21 FILE.

22 IT NEEDS TO BE IN A SEPARATE FILE AND THAT'S PART OF

23 ENSURING CONFIDENTIALITY. AND MOST AGENCIES AS I

24 HAVE SAID HAVE GOTTEN THAT RIGHT.

25 BUT MANY HAVE NOT LISTED ON THE FACE OF THEIR


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1 PROCEDURES THE EXCEPTIONS FOR DISCLOSURE AND WE'VE

2 ASKED THEM TO SPELL THAT OUT NOT SIMPLY TO REFER TO

3 THE PRIVACY ACT AND ITS EXCEPTIONS OR WHATNOT WHICH

4 WE'VE SEEN BECAUSE THE REHABILITATION ACT HAS BEEN

5 INTERPRETED TO REQUIRE CONFIDENTIALITY FOR MEDICAL

6 INFORMATION, HAS ITS OWN EXCEPTIONS, AND SO WE'VE

7 ASKED AGENCIES TO SPELL THAT OUT.

8 AS I SAID, WE'VE BEEN SENDING INDIVIDUALIZED FEEDBACK

9 LETTERS AND WE HOPE THAT AS AGENCIES PROMULGATE THESE

10 PROCEDURES AND MODIFY THEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE

11 ADVICE WE'RE GIVING AND THE INFORMATION GETS

12 DISSEMINATED TO EMPLOYEES AND MANAGERS THAT THIS IS

13 JUST REALLY TRULY GOING TO BE A MASS EDUCATION EFFORT

14 AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE RIPPLE EFFECT IN

15 TERMS OF EEO COMPLAINTS WHICH WE DO NOT SEE FILE

16 WOULD IN THE COMING YEARS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE

17 ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THE END.

18 THANK YOU.

19 >> GOOD MORNING.

20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21 I FORGOT TO WEAR A MICROPHONE FRIEND SUIT.

22 SO I GOTTA TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE I'M GOING TO PUT

23 THIS.

24 THIS IS A PROBLEM.

25 MEN HAVE IT EASY.


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1 USUALLY YOU HAVE A POCKET SOMEWHERE THAT YOU CAN

2 STICK THE MICROPHONE ON, SO HOLD ON.

3 SO I CAN FIND A PLACE FOR THIS.

4 GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

5 I'M DINAH COHEN AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE COMPUTER

6 ELECTRONIC ACCOMMODATIONS PROGRAM, BETTER KNOWN AS

7 CAP.

8 AND I'LL BE FOCUSING A LITTLE BIT ON OUR CAP PROGRAM,

9 THE ISSUES OF ACCOMMODATIONS FOR PEOPLE WITH

10 DISABILITIES AND THE KIND OF SERVICES WE PROVIDE.

11 HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD OF CAP?

12 RAISE YOUR HANDS.

13 HOW MANY OF YOU ARE WITH DOD?

14 HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN MAYBE ONE OF MY PARTNERS

15 LAST YEAR?

16 HOW MANY OF YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO SIGN UP WITH ME

17 THIS YEAR?

18 OH, ALL OF YOUR HANDS SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP.

19 ALL RIGHT.

20 WE'RE GOING TO TALK.

21 FIRST I WANT TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE ISSUE OF THIS

22 CONFERENCE WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A 508

23 CONFERENCE.

24 SO LET'S START OFF WITH A WHOLE ISSUE OF

25 ACCESSIBILITY VERSUS ACCOMMODATIONS.


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1 YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT SECTION 508.

2 AND 508 IS REALLY FOCUSING ON HAVING GOVERNMENT HAVE

3 AN INFORMATION INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE AND

4 USABLE BY ALL PEOPLE.

5 AND THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT THE DATA BASES WE'RE

6 USING, THE E-MAIL PRODUCTS, ALL THE INFORMATION WE

7 WANT TO ACCESS, ALL THE ELECTRONIC TECHNOLOGY WE WANT

8 TO USE IS DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE WITH

9 DISABILITIES CAN HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO IT.

10 THAT'S WHAT 508 IS TALKING ABOUT.

11 ACCOMMODATIONS DEALS WITH A SPECIFIC TOOL THAT AN

12 INDIVIDUAL WITH A DISABILITY MAY NEED TO DO THEIR

13 PARTICULAR TASK OR JOB.

14 SO 508 IS TALKING ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE.

15 ACCOMMODATION TALK TAABOUT THE ONE TO ONE TOOLS.

16 AND THAT REALLY ADDRESSES MORE OF THE SECTION 501 AND

17 504. SO I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT MYSELF AS A 504 KIND

18 OF A GAL.

19 SINCE MY VERY BEGINNING MY MISSION HAS BEEN VERY

20 CLEAR ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

21 MY MISSION FROM THE BEGINNING WITH THE CAP PROGRAM IS

22 TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE THE

23 ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY AND ACCOMMODATIONS TO ENSURE

24 THEY HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT

25 AND OPPORTUNITIES IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.


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1 AND AS I AM GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ON OCTOBER 30

2 OF 2000, LAST OCTOBER 30 PRESIDENT CLINTON SIGNED THE

3 NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT WHICH GAVE CAP THE

4 AUTHORITY TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM EXPANDED TO ALL

5 FEDERAL AGENCIES.

6 WITH THIS MISSION, I TAKE ON THE CHALLENGE OF MAKING

7 SURE THAT AGENCIES AND OTHER EMPLOYEES HAVE THE TOOLS

8 THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS.

9 THAT'S WHAT THE CAP MISSION IS.

10 IS PROVIDING PEOPLE WITH TOOLS SO THEY CAN BE PART OF

11 TODAY'S ELECTRONIC ENVIRONMENT.

12 TO ME 508 IS WONDERFUL BECAUSE IT'S REALLY MAKING MY

13 JOB EASIER.

14 IT WAS NOT THAT UNCOMMON FOR CAP TO PROVIDE MAYBE A

15 SCREEN READER FOR SOMEBODY.

16 THEY LOAD IT ONTO THEIR SYSTEM, BUT THEY STILL CAN'T

17 ACCESS THE INFORMATION THEY NEED BECAUSE 508 HADN'T

18 BEEN ADDRESSED AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AN INFORMATION

19 ENVIRONMENT THAT ALLOWED THESE TOOLS TO TALK

20 TOGETHER.

21 SO 508 IS GOING TO MAKE MY JOB EASIER AND AS ANYONE

22 KNOWS, I'M THE WORLD'S MOST LAZIEST PERSON, SO 508 IS

23 HERE TO MAKE THINGS MOVE FASTER AND BETTER AND TO

24 MAKE SURE THE TOOLS I PROVIDE TO EMPLOYEES WITH

25 DISABILITIES ARE GOING TO WORK WELL TOGETHER.


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1 SO THAT'S MY MISSION.

2 LAST YEAR WE KICKED OFF THE PROGRAM AND IN

3 NY2001 WE HAD 45 PARTNERS SIGN UP FOR THE CAP

4 PROGRAM.

5 AND THAT INCLUDED DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, DEPARTMENT

6 OF COMMERCE, MY COLLEAGUES AT THE TABLE HERE, OPM AND

7 EOC, I HAVEN'T SEEN YOUR INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT YET

8 THIS YEAR.

9 >> SOON.

10 >> ALL RIGHT.

11 WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH SEC, FCC, AND IF YOU KNOW

12 ALL THESEARC NIMS YOU'VE BEEN IN GOVERNMENT TOO LONG.

13 SO NOW WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH 2002.

14 THIS IS THE THIRD DAY OF 2002 AND WE ALREADY HAVE 16

15 INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS.

16 MANY OF THEM ARE REPEATERS AND WE EVEN HAVE SOME NEW

17 AGENCIES ARE JOINING US THIS YEAR SO WE CAN PROVIDE

18 THEIR ACCOMMODATIONS.

19 NOW, THE KEY TO THIS WHOLE CONCEPT, AND I WANT TO

20 MAKE SURE YOU HEAR IT CLEARLY, WE PICK UP THE TAB.

21 WE ARE NOW THE CENTRALLY FUNDED PROGRAM FOR

22 ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE FEDERAL PROGRAM.

23 THE MONEY COMES OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

24 BUDGET TO SUPPORT OTHER AGENCIES.

25 SO WE'RE PAYING FOR THE ACCOMODATIONS FOR ALL OF OUR


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1 FEDERAL PARTNERS.

2 SO YOU PEOPLE STARTED TO SAY, GEE, THAT SOUNDS TOO

3 GOOD TO BE TRUE. AND I'M LIKE, WELL, EVERY ONCE IN A

4 WHILE SOMETHING ACTUALLY WORK LOS ANGELES.

5 AND THIS IS ONE OF THE RESULTS OF THE PRESIDENTIAL

6 TASK FORCE WHERE THEY LOOK AT MANY OF THE IMPEDIMENTS

7 THAT WERE HOLDING PEOPLE BACK WHEN IT COMES TO

8 EMPLOYING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

9 ONE WOULD BE THE COST OF ACCOMMODATION.

10 LET'S HAVE A CENTRALLY AND TRULY LEVEL THE PLAYING

11 FIELD WITH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES F. A MANAGER

12 DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO

13 COST TO ACCOMMODATE A PERSON WITH A DISABILITY,

14 CHANCES ARE THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE WITH

15 DISABILITIES.

16 SO WE'RE NOW THE CENTRALLY FUNDED PROGRAM FOR THE

17 GOVERNMENT AND WE ALREADY HAVE 16 PARTNERS FOR 2002.

18 CAN YOU BELIEVE IT'S 2002?

19 THIS IS HOW WE DO THE PROCESS ITSELF.

20 WE HAVE VERY CLEAR OBJECTIVES.

21 FOR AN AGENCY TO BECOME A PARTNER WITH THE CAP

22 PROGRAM, THE FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THE

23 HEAD OF THE AGENCY NEEDS TO SIGN THE INTERAGENCY

24 AGREEMENT.

25 AND THE REASON PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHY DOES


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1 IT HAVE TO GET TO THE HEAD OF THE AGENCY?

2 MY GUY'S KIND OF BUSY.

3 AND I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING FREE

4 MONEY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

5 BECAUSE IT SOMEWHAT CONTRADICTS THE ECONOMY ACT THAT

6 YOU'RE ASKING ANOTHER AGENCY TO PAY FOR SOMETHING

7 THAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING.

8 BUT WE KNOW THIS IS GOOD BUSINESS, AND WE KNOW WE CAN

9 DO IT WELL, SO FOR IT TO HAPPEN WE WANT THE HEAD OF

10 THE AGENCY TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOW GETTING SUPPORT

11 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

12 SO THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE NEED AN

13 INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT FROM THE HEAD OF THE AGENCY.

14 ONCE WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE AND WE CAN START TO

15 PROVIDE THE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES WITH

16 DISABILITIES.

17 WE PROVIDE THE ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY AND

18 ACCOMMODATIONS TO ENSURE YOUR EMPLOYEES HAVE THE

19 TOOLS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS.

20 VERY SIMPLE.

21 IN PLAIN ENGLISH, WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE BUY IT, WE

22 PAY FOR IT, WE GET IT TO THE USER.

23 IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.

24 AND I I'VE BEEN IN DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FOR NOW 10

25 PLUS YEARS SO I TEND TO BECOME A LITTLE BIT ANAL OVER


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1 THE YEARS AND I LIKE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE DO OUR

2 JOB L. NOT ONLY DO WE PROVIDE THE ACCOMMODATIONS,

3 WE'RE ALWAYS CHECKING WITH OUR CUSTOMERS DID WE DO A

4 GOOD JOB.

5 WE SEND OUT CONSTANTLY FOLLOW-UP SURVEYS.

6 DID YOU GET YOUR ACCOMMODATION YOU REQUESTED IT?

7 DID IT WORK OUT?

8 WAS IT THE TOOL YOU NEEDED?

9 MOST PEOPLE WILL SEND THEIR SURVEYS BACK.

10 I TEND TO READ ALL THE SURVEY RESULTS BECAUSE I'M

11 JUST THAT KIND OF GAL.

12 AND I READ ONE OF THESE AND I SEE THE SURVEY AND I

13 START TO GET A LITTLE NERVOUS BECAUSE THE SURVEYS,

14 THE RESPONSE CAME BACK LIKE THIS: I'M A LITTLE

15 DISAPPOINTED WITH CAP.

16 YOU CLAIM YOU CAN PROVIDE ACCOMODATIONS BETWEEN 7 AND

17 10 DAYS, WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY GOOD FOR GOVERNMENT.

18 YOUR INFORMATION IS INACCURATE.

19 I WAS ABLE TO GET MY ACCOMMODATION AND INSTALLED IN

20 THREE DAYS.

21 AND I'M LIKE YES! THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR.

22 WE HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE -- TO BE ABLE TO BUY AND

23 PAY FOR THAT RAH COMMENDATION, GET IT TO THAT USER IN

24 SOMETHING AS SHORT AS THREE DAYS.

25 WE SAY 7 TO 10 BECAUSE MANY VENDORS ARE A LITTLE


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1 SLOWER THAN OTHERS.

2 SOME COMPANIES ARE A LITTLE BETTER AT DELIVERING.

3 WE TEND TO BE ABOUT 7 TO 10 DAYS BUT IT'S NOT UNUSUAL

4 OR TOTALLY UNCOMMON THAT AS THIS PERSON SAID, DELIVER

5 AND INSTALL IN THREE DAYS.

6 SO THAT'S ONE OF THE -- THAT IS THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF

7 THE CAP CENTRALLY FUNDED PROGRAM.

8 WE'RE HERE TO ALSO HELP WHEN IT COMES TO EMPLOYMENT

9 AND RETENTION OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

10 THE SAME DAY THAT PRESIDENT CLINTON SIGNED THE

11 EXECUTIVE ORDER DEALING WITH ACCOMMODATION, HE SIGNED

12 ANOTHER EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUESTING THAT THE FEDERAL

13 GOVERNMENT BECOME THE MODEL EMPLOYER AND HIRE A

14 HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

15 IN A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

16 WE'RE IN YEAR TWO, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING?

17 WE KNOW THAT AGAIN IF YOU ARE A CAP PARTNER, THAT ONE

18 OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO ADDRESS WHEN

19 YOU TRY TO BRING NEW PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ON

20 BOARD IS WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT ACCOMMODATION.

21 SO WE FEEL WE'RE A VERY BIG PART OF THAT EXECUTIVE

22 ORDER TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR SHARE

23 OF HIRING MORE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN YOUR

24 FEDERAL AGENCY.

25 IN DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, WE HAD PROJECTED THAT WE


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1 CAN HIRE 32,000 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN THIS

2 FIVE-YEAR CYCLE.

3 WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL 32,000,

4 BUT MAYBE WE WILL, BUT THE THING IS THAT THAT'S WHAT

5 GOALS ARE FOR, SO IT'S SOMETHING TO STRIVE FOR.

6 WE KNOW THAT AS YOU PEOPLE COME ON BOARD, THE

7 ACCOMODATIONS WILL BE READILY AVAILABLE, MAKING IT

8 EASIER FOR A MANAGER TO DO THEIR SHARE OF HIRING MORE

9 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

10 BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE SIDE OF THE COIN.

11 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN IS HELPING MANAGERS RETAIN

12 THEIR TALENTED PEOPLE ON THEIR WORK FORCE.

13 MANY PEOPLE IN THE COURSE OF THE YEARS WILL BECOME

14 DISABLED.

15 WE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE REALLY

16 DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT TOO MUCH.

17 BUT I CAN STAND IN FRONT OF ANY ROOM IN A GROUP OF

18 MANAGERS AND I CAN LOOK THEM IN THE EYES AND SAY I

19 GUARANTEE THAT IF YOU HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE WORKING

20 FOR YOU 10 YEARS FROM NOW AS YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, I

21 GUARANTEE THAT EVEN IF YOU NEVER HIRED A PERSON WITH

22 A DISABILITY, SOMEONE'S GOING TO BECOME DISABLED.

23 SOMEONE WILL HAVE A HEART ATTACK.

24 SOMEONE WILL BE DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER.

25 SOMEONE WILL START TO HAVE DIABETES.


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1 SOMEONE'S GOING TO COME TO YOU AND SAY I NEED TO BE

2 ACCOMMODATED.

3 SO IF YOU'RE SMART MANAGERS, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO

4 UNDERSTAND ACCOMMODATIONS BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL NEED

5 TO BE ACCOMMODATED WHETHER YOU HIRED A PERSON WITH A

6 DISABILITY OR NOT.

7 OF ALL THE REASONS WE'RE HAVING MORE PEOPLE WITH

8 DISABILITIES ON OUR WORK FORCE IS WHAT WE CALL THE

9 AGING PROCESS.

10 I PERSONALLY DON'T CARE FOR THAT TERM SINCE I'M --

11 YEARS OLD, I DON'T LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF AS GETTING

12 OLDER, BUT GETTING CHRONOLOGICALLY GIFTED.

13 AND SOME OF US WON'T WALK AS FAST, WE'LL HAVE

14 PROBLEMS WITH OUR DEXTERITY, OUR VISION MIGHT HAVE

15 SOME PROBLEMS, OUR HEARING MAY HAVE SOME PROBLEMS.

16 SO AS WE START TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE NEED TO

17 MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT ACCOMMODATIONS WE MAY NEED TO

18 PROVIDE.

19 WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED IN OUR FOLKS.

20 LET'S ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WE'VE ALREADY

21 INVESTED IN, WHO ARE ALREADY PART OF OUR WORK FORCE

22 CAN STAY ON THE WORK FORCE.

23 THAT'S WHAT CAP DOES IS WORK WITH MANAGERS TO KEEP

24 PEOPLE IN THE WORK FORCE.

25 WE ALSO TALK ABOUT PROGRAM ACCESSIBILITY.


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1 IT IS NOT ENOUGH JUST TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WITH

2 DISABILITIES.

3 YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ACCESSIBLE TO YOUR

4 COMMUNITY OF DISABLED INDIVIDUALS.

5 IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO SAY, OH, WE'LL HIRE PEOPLE WITH

6 DISABILITIES AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A TTY IN YOUR

7 PERSONNEL OFFICE SO A DEAF PERSON CAN CALL AND SAY

8 DID YOU GET MY APPLICATION.

9 SO WE NEED TO HAVE PROGRAM ACCESS.

10 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE HAVE EMERGENCY

11 SITUATIONS PEOPLE CAN CALL WHO MAY NEED DIFFERENT

12 WAYS OF CALLING IN.

13 SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS PROGRAM ACCESS AND OF COURSE

14 WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT 508 COMPLIANCE.

15 LET ME TELL FOR A MOMENT ABOUT SOME OF THE TOOLS WE

16 PROVIDE FOR THE CAP PROGRAM.

17 AGAIN, WE WERE HERE TO BECOME THE CENTRALLY FUNDED

18 PROGRAM TO PROVIDE THE ACCOMMODATIONS.

19 LET ME QUICKLY GO DOWN SOME OF THE ACCOMMODATIONS WE

20 DO PROVIDE.

21 WHAT IS THE NO. 1 DISABLING CONDITION IN THE

22 UNITED STATES TODAY?

23 CARPAL TUNNEL SEND ROM.

24 WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GO OUT ON WORKERS' COMP OR

25 NOT BEING PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE DEVELOPED


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1 CARPAL TUNNEL.

2 IF I CAN ACCOMMODATE SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE A SPINAL

3 CORD INJURY, MS, CP, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE DISABILITY

4 IS, IT'S THE SAME FUNCTIONAL LIMITATIONS: SOMEONE

5 MAY NOT BE ABLE TO USE THEIR HANDS TO ENTER

6 INFORMATION INTO THE COMPUTER ENVIRONMENT.

7 LET'S ACCOMMODATE THEM.

8 SO WE HAVE AN ACCOMMODATION WHETHER IT'S A LOW TECH

9 SOLUTIONS LIKE A DIFFERENT POINTER SYSTEM, DIFFERENT

10 KEYBOARD, OR THE HIGH END, MORE THE VOICE RECOGNITION

11 TYPE TECHNOLOGY.

12 ALLOWING SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO INPUT INFORMATION INTO

13 THEIR COMPUTER ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT MAYBE USING AS

14 WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK OF AS A TRADITIONAL KEYBOARD.

15 HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE NOTICED THAT THE PRINT IN THE

16 PHONE BOOK HAS GOTTEN A HELL OF A LOT SMALLER OVER

17 THE YEARS? WE HAVE LARGER MONITOR, OR WHERE WE

18 PROVIDE CCTVS OR MAGNIFICATION, WHATEVER THE TOOL MAY

19 BE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT'S ON THEIR COMPUTER

20 SCREEN OR BE ABLE TO ACCESS WHAT'S ON THEIR COMPUTER

21 SCREEN IS THE OTHER TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES IT

22 EASY FOR PEOPLE TO STAY PART OF THIS INFORMATION

23 ENVIRONMENT.

24 TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICES, TTY'S.

25 HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS?


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1 RAISE YOUR HANDS.

2 EVERYONE'S HANDS SHOULD BE UP.

3 IF THEY'RE NOT, MAKE SURE GUNEXT DOOR TO THE EXHIBIT

4 ROOM.

5 TTY ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO ARE DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING,

6 PEOPLE WITH SPEECH IMPAIRMENT, PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE

7 WHAT YOU CONSIDER A TRADITIONAL TELEPHONE TO

8 COMMUNICATE.

9 WHETHER YOU HAVE THE SMALL DESKTOP MODEL OR YOU HAVE

10 THE LARGER PC-BASED MODEL WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO

11 NETWORK.

12 AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS YOU, GET

13 THE INFORMATION THEY NEED, BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE,

14 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

15 WE ALSO PROVIDE ASSISTIVE LISTENING DEVICES.

16 SOME OF US AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, PART OF THAT

17 GIFTING PROCESS WE'LL HAVE SOME OF OUR HEARING LOSS.

18 BASED ON WHERE I WORK, A LOT OF OUR FOLKS IN UNIFORM

19 HAVE HEARING LOSS JUST BY THE NATURE OF WHAT THEY DO.

20 I KNOW I'VE LOST SOME OF MY HEARING BUT IT'S NOT

21 BECAUSE OF WHERE I WORK, BUT IT'S BECAUSE I GO TO A

22 LOT OF ROCK CONCERTS AND.

23 YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT REALLY APPRECIATE TINA TURNER

24 DOING PROUD MARY UNLESS YOU'RE NEXT TO THE AMPLIFIER.

25 SO I'VE LOST A LOT OF MY HEARING.


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1 I KNOW I HEAR WOMEN'S VOICES BETTER THAN MALE'S

2 VOICES.

3 AND I KNOW THAT AFTER ABOUT 18 YEARS OF MARRIAGE I

4 CAN HARDLY HEAR MY HUSBAND'S VOICE AT ALL.

5 SO IF YOU FIND THAT YOU ARE HAVING PROBLEMS NOW DOING

6 PHONE WORK, GOING TO MEETINGS, THAT YOU CAN HEAR SOME

7 PEOPLE'S VOICES BUT NOT OTHER PEOPLE'S VOICES.

8 IT COULD BE JUST A SLIGHT HEARING LOSS AND TECHNOLOGY

9 CAN HELP YOU KEEP PART OF THAT ENVIRONMENT, DO THE

10 PHONE WORK, GO TO THOSE MEETINGS.

11 WE ALSO PROVIDE WHAT WE CALL CAPTIONING SERVICES.

12 CAPTIONING ALLOWS US AGAIN TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE

13 ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND INFORMATION THIS . ALSO GOES

14 BACK TO THAT 508 ENVIRONMENT, MAKING SURE THAT WE

15 HAVE VIDEO TAPES THAT ARE CAPTIONED.

16 HOW MANY OF YOU USE VIDEO TAPES FOR YOUR TRAIN

17 SOMETHING RAISE YOUR HANDS.

18 ARE THOSE TAPES USED FOR EEO TRAINING, DIVERSITY

19 TRAINING?

20 HOW MANY OF THEM ARE CAPTIONED?

21 NOT EVERYONE'S HAND WENT BACK UP.

22 DID YOU NOTICE THAT?

23 MY COMMENT IS SHAME ON YOU.

24 IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUYING VIDEO TAPES, IF YOU'RE

25 GOING TO BE PROMOTING TRAINING USING VIDEO TAPES, YOU


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1 MUST MAKE SURE IT IS CAPTIONED.

2 WHAT MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT CRAZY IS THAT OCCASIONALLY

3 WE BUY VIDEO TAPES ON ISSUES LIKE EEO, DIVERSITY,

4 PERSONNEL ISSUES FROM VENDORS WHO CLAIM THEY KNOW ALL

5 ABOUT THESE ISSUES, WHO CLAIM THEY'RE EXPERTS ON

6 THEM, AND THEIR MATERIALS ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE.

7 TWO THINGS COME TO MIND WHEN I SEE THAT HAPPEN.

8 ONE, THE COMPANY THAT'S PROMOTING THEIR VIDEO TAPES

9 AND THEIR MATERIALS ON DIVERSITY AND EEO AND ALL THAT

10 STUFF AND IT'S NOT CAPTIONED, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK

11 BUT THEY DON'T GET IT.

12 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND DIVERSITY.

13 HOW CAN THEY HAVE MATERIALS ON DIVERSITY AND FORGET

14 AN ENTIRE POPULATION?

15 AND THEN THE PERSON THAT BOUGHT IT, YOU DON'T GET IT.

16 IF YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE, AND I ASSUME MANY OF YOU DO

17 SERVE IN THE ROLE OF EEO ADVISOR TO YOUR BOSS AND IF

18 YOU DON'T DO THAT FOR THEM, YOU HAVE MADE YOUR BOSS

19 LIKE A BOSS WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN INCLUSION BECAUSE

20 YOU HAVE JUST PROMOTED THE CONCEPT OF INFORMATION NOT

21 BEING ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYONE AND NOT TRULY BEING

22 INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE.

23 SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE CHANGE THAT PRACTICE.

24 BECAUSE CAPTIONING IS NOT ONLY SOMETHING THAT'S VERY

25 USEFUL, IT SENDS A MESSAGE.


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1 CAN PEOPLE TELL ME WHO ELSE BENEFITS FROM HAVING

2 VIDEO TAPES CAPTIONED BESIDES PEOPLE WHO ARE DEAF AND

3 HARD OF HEARING?

4 >> LEARNING DISABLED PEOPLE.

5 >> EXCELLENT.

6 WHO ELSE?

7 ANYONE ELSE?

8 >> ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE.

9 >> OUTSTANDING! ENGLISH AS A SECOND

10 LANGUAGE.

11 PEOPLE WHO ARE FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE, PROBABLY

12 EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND INFORMATION WHEN THEY CAN SEE

13 IT AND HEAR IT SIMULTANEOUSLY.

14 ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE CAPTIONING IS BEING USED

15 MOST IN THE PUBLIC AREA?

16 WHERE DO YOU GET --

17 >> BARS.

18 >> DALE, WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING AFTER

19 WORK?

20 (LAUGHTER).

21 >> SPORTS BARS.

22 SPORTS BARS PROBABLY NO. 1.

23 HEALTH PLACES, BUT YOU CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT ANY

24 TYPE OF GO TO A SPORTS BAR, AT LEAST ONE TV IS ON

25 CAPTIONING.


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1 YOU THINK THEY PROBABLY CARE ABOUT THE DEAF AND HARD

2 OF HEARING COMMUNITY?

3 PROBABLY NOT.

4 BUT WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE IT CAPTIONED?

5 THEY CAN'T HEAR IT.

6 ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR ONE

7 POPULATION BENEFITTING A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, KIND OF

8 THAT CONCEPT OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN.

9 I CAN'T HELP BUT TELL THIS STORY.

10 WHEN THE LAW CAME OUT THAT REQUIRED THAT ALL OF OUR

11 TV SETS THAT ARE 13 INCHES OR LARGER THAT WAS

12 MERCHANDISED AND DISTRIBUTED IN THE UNITED STATES HAD

13 TO HAVE THAT INTERNAL CHIP TO ACCESS THE CAPTIONING

14 BY TURNING A SWITCH.

15 THE CONVERSATION GOES BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.

16 THE NONDEAF PERSON TURNS TO THE DEAF PERSON.

17 AND SAYS I REALLY RESENT THAT I HAVE TO SPEND $5 MORE

18 SO YOU PEOPLE CAN WATCH TV, SO YOU PEOPLE CAN WATCH

19 CAPTIONING.

20 THE DEAF WOMAN JUST SMILES AND SAID OH, DON'T FEEL SO

21 BAD.

22 I'VE BEEN PAYING FOR YOUR VOLUME CONTROL FOR YEARS.

23 (LAUGHTER).

24 WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE

25 TECHNOLOGY JUST AGAIN TO INCREASE ACCESS THROUGHOUT


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1 OUT FACILITIES.

2 SO THAT'S WHAT CAP PURPOSE IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT

3 WE PROVIDE THOSE TOOLS.

4 OVER THE COURSE OF MANY YEARS WE HAVE GROWN

5 TREMENDOUSLY, IN THE FY01 WHICH WE JUST WRAPPED UP,

6 WE FILLED OVER 4000 REQUESTS FOR ACCOMMODATION, OVER

7 3,000 FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND OVER 1,000 FOR

8 OUR DOD PARTNERS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE

9 ACCOMMODATIONS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS SO YOU CAN

10 SEE THE GROWTH OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS.

11 WHEN IT COMES TO KNOWING AND LEARNING ABOUT OUR

12 PARTNERSHIP WITH -- CAP WILL BE SPONSORING A CAP

13 PARTNERSHIP TRAINING SEMINAR NOVEMBER 6 AT THE

14 MARRIOTT METROCENTER.

15 YOU CAN GET INFORMATION AT OUR CAP BOOTH.

16 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE WHO IS A CAP

17 PARTNER OR WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE A CAP PARTNER LEARN

18 ABOUT THE VERY SPECIFIC WAYS IN WHICH WE ACTUALLY

19 LEARN AND WORK AND MANAGE THE PROGRAM.

20 TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING A LOT MORE ABOUT HOW

21 WE FILL OUT THE CAP REQUEST FORM, HOW WE DO NEEDS

22 ASSESSMENT, HOW WE REALLY MANAGE THE PROGRAM TO

23 BENEFIT OUR CAP PARTNERS.

24 SO I RESPECT IF YOU ARE A CAP PERSON NOW OR WANT TO

25 GET MORE HANDS ON INFORMATION, ATTEND OUR CONFERENCE.


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1 MANY OF MY PARTNERS ARE HERE AS PART OF THE PLANNING

2 COMMITTEE INCLUDING BARB EVA, FROM SHA, DEPARTMENT OF

3 DEFENSE, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, ALL SPONSORS OF THESE

4 WONDERFUL CONFERENCES, TWO AND A HALF DAYS OF

5 FOCUSING ON ALL ASPECTS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

6 I'D LIKE TO NOW FOCUS ON A FEW THINGS.

7 ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IS A WONDERFUL TECHNOLOGY

8 CENTER.

9 AND OUR TECHNOLOGY CENTER'S IN THE PENTAGON.

10 AND THE FIRST TIME PRESIDENT BUSH CAME TO THE

11 PENTAGON WAS TO MEET WITH ME AND TO SEE OUR

12 TECHNOLOGY CENTER.

13 IT WAS A WONDERFUL DAY FOR OUR CAP SAC.

14 YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT BUSH.

15 HE WAS REALLY GETTING -- AL WAS SHOWING WHAT GEORGE

16 W. BUSH FELT LIKE IN BRAILLE, HE RUBBED HIS FINGER

17 ACROSS THE TERMINAL AND WENT COOL.

18 AND PAUL SINGLE MAN WAS SHOWING HIM HOW TO DO A TTY

19 CALL.

20 AND HE PUSHED PAUL ASIDE AND SAID LET ME DO IT.

21 AND HE SAID HELLO, JENNIFER THIS IS THE PRESIDENT.

22 IT WAS A WONDERFUL DAY FOR THE CAP PROGRAM TO BE ABLE

23 TO HOST A TOUR FOR PRESIDENT BUSH.

24 THAT WAS HIS FIRST DAY AT THE PENTAGON.

25 SECOND VISIT AT THE PENTAGON, SEPTEMBER 2 H.


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1 SEPTEMBER 12.

2 I CAN'T HELP TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER

3 11.

4 IT HIT HOME.

5 IT HIT OUR BUILDING.

6 WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH CAME BACK ON THE 12TH, HE SAW THE

7 DEVASTATION TO THE PENTAGON.

8 WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE DEATHS THAT HAPPENED ON THE

9 11TH.

10 NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE WE

11 LOST SO MANY PEOPLE.

12 BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE IN FRONT OF US.

13 AND THAT IS WE DON'T HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE SURVIVORS.

14 AND THIS IS WHY I TURN TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU

15 TO SAY YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO YOUR AGENCIES, YOU NEED

16 TO GO BACK TO YOUR ORGANIZATIONS, AND MAKE SURE YOU

17 HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT.

18 IF EVER THIS COUNTRY NEEDED THE TALENTS OF PEOPLE WHO

19 UNDERSTAND HOW TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WITH

20 DISABILITIES, THIS IS IT.

21 WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL IN THE WASHINGTON

22 HOSPITAL, WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE IN NEW YORK HOSPITALS,

23 WHO ALL HAVE A LONG RECOVERY AND WANT TO COME BACK TO

24 WORK.

25 WE MUST HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO.


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1 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN COME BACK AND WORK FOR

2 US AGAIN BY HAVING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S ACCESSIBLE.

3 SO I TURN TO YOU AND I CHALLENGE EACH AND EVERY ONE

4 OF YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR ENVIRONMENT IS

5 PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE.

6 I CHALLENGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO MAKE SURE

7 YOUR INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT IS TRULY ACCESSIBLE.

8 I CHALLENGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO MAKE SURE

9 THAT YOU PRACTICE INCLUSION, BECAUSE IF EVER WE

10 NEEDED AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS SUPPORTIVE OF PEOPLE

11 WITH DISABILITIES, IT IS NOW.

12 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROGRAM AND AN

13 ENVIRONMENT THAT WILL SUPPORT THE PEOPLE, THE

14 VICTIMS, OF SEPTEMBER 11 AND WHAT MIGHT COME NEXT.

15 IF EVER THERE'S A TIME THAT NEEDS OUR TALENT, THIS IS

16 IT.

17 MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS HEARD ME SAY THAT THE REASON

18 WE NEED TO HAVE STRONG DISABILITY PROGRAMS IS BECAUSE

19 THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY POPULATION ANYONE CAN JOIN

20 AT ANY TIME.

21 ASK THE SUPERMAN.

22 ASK CHRISTOPHER REEF. AND NOW ASK THE VICTIMS OF

23 SEPTEMBER 11.

24 BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL READY TO

25 SUPPORT THEM.


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1 AND WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF WE HAVE THAT KIND OF

2 ENVIRONMENT SO IN CASE WE BECOME DISABLED WE HAVE A

3 PLACE TO WORK.

4 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

5 (APPLAUSE)

6 .

7 >>DINAH IS A VERY HARD ACT TO FOLLOW.

8 SHE'S GREAT.

9 I'M ROSEMARY GALE, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PERSONNEL AT

10 OFFICE OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT.

11 AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WHAT HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER

12 11 HAS REALLY HEIGHTENED OUR NEED TO RECRUIT THE BEST

13 AND THE BRIGHTEST.

14 THERE'S A LOT MORE DISABLED PEOPLE.

15 THERE'S A LOT MORE DISABLED PEOPLE THAN THERE WERE

16 BEFORE, AND WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

17 I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT OUR DIRECTOR K

18 COLE JAINKS SAID ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF GOVERNMENT

19 SERVICE.

20 SHE SAID OUR NATION DEPENDED UPON THE RELIEF WORKERS

21 FROM THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, THE

22 SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, AND THE CORPS OF

23 ENGINEERS AT GROUND ZERO TO BRING ORDER TO THE CHAOS.

24 THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WAS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT IN

25 THAT.


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1 FAAN EMPLOYED SKY MARSHALS TO SECURE OUR SAFETY.

2 THE FBI NEEDS INVESTIGATORS, THE CII NEEDS

3 INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS.

4 DOD NEEDS TO REPLACE WORKERS THEY'VE LOST EVEN AS

5 THEY GET TO A FULL-SCALE MOBILIZATION.

6 THERE ARE PRESSING NEEDS AT JUSTICE, AT TREASURY.

7 AT THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD, ADMINISTRATIVES AND

8 SYSTEM ANALYSTS KEEP THE BANKING SYSTEM AND THE MONEY

9 SUPPLY STABLE.

10 THE U.S. BORDER PATROL AND COAST GUARD KEEP AN EYE

11 OUT FOR HOSTILE VISITORS.

12 THE FDAN ENSURES A QUALITY BELOW SUPPLY.

13 THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL WATCHES FOR SIGNS FOR

14 ANY NEW EPIDEMIC.

15 EPA MONITORS OUR AIR AND WATER AND IS ASSESSING THE

16 CLEANUP IN NEW YORK CITY.

17 WE NEED DOCTORS, WE NEED LAWYERS, WE NEED

18 RESEARCHERS, WE NEED ANALYSTS, WE NEED SCIENTISTS, WE

19 NEED TEACHERS, WE NEED PEOPLE WHO WILL RISE TO THE

20 OCCASION AND RESPOND TO THE NEED FOR PUBLIC SERVICE

21 NOW.

22 WE HAVE A NEED FOR NEW TALENT AND NEW ENERGY, NEW

23 CREATETIVEITY TO DO THE WORK OF THE GOVERNMENT IN THE

24 21ST CENTURY.

25 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING ON BOARD A BROAD


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1 RANGE OF DIVERSE NEW TALENT.

2 THAT'S WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY AND I THINK THAT SUMS UP

3 VERY WELL WHAT OUR CHALLENGES ARE IN EMPLOYMENT.

4 SO WE HAVE THIS GREAT NEED AND THEN BECOME PEOPLE

5 WITH DISABILITIES.

6 AND AS A NATION, WE REALLY HAVE ALLOWED ENORMOUS

7 TALENT TO GO UNTAPPED FOR TOO LONG.

8 WE'VE GOT TO BRING MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE WITH

9 DISABILITIES INTO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

10 WE NEED THEIR SKILLS, WE NEED THEIR TALENTS, AND

11 WE'VE GOT TO DO IT QUICKLY.

12 I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES

13 AND OPM'S EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FEDERAL

14 GOVERNMENT AS A MODEL EMPLOYER DOES A BETTER JOB OF

15 RECRUITING, HIRING, DEVELOPING, AND RETAINING PEOPLE

16 WITH DISABILITIES IN THE WORKPLACE.

17 I'D LIKE TO GO OVER SOME DEMOGRAPHICS THAT SHOW YOU

18 HOW WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND TALK ABOUT SOME

19 EFFORTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD WITH PEOPLE WITH

20 DISABILITIES.

21 AND WHERE WE'RE GOING IN THE FUTURE.

22 FIRST LET ME PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND.

23 TODAY THERE ARE 54 MILLION PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES

24 IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THAT WAS BEFORE SEPTEMBER

25 11.


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1 20% OF OUR TOTAL POPULATION IS DISABLED.

2 AS GROUP, THEY SUFFER AN UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF 75

3 PERCENT.

4 COMPARE THAT TO THE NATIONAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF

5 ABOUT 4 PERCENT.

6 DOESN'T TAKE A STATISTICIAN TO KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING

7 VERY WRONG WITH THESE NUMBERS.

8 OUR MOST RECENT FIGURES SHOW THAT THERE'S 120,770

9 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

10 OR 6.8 PERCENT OF THE FEDERAL WORK FORCE.

11 AMONG THE FEDERAL WORK FORCE, 19,996 HAVE TARGETED

12 DISABILITIES.

13 THAT'S ONLY 1.2 PERCENT OF OUR WORK FORCE.

14 FOR THE PAST THREE DECADES, SEVERAL LAWS HAVE BEEN

15 ENACTED WITH THE INTENT OF SUPPORTING AND ENCOURAGING

16 THE EMPLOYMENT RETENTION AND ADVANCEMENT OF PEOPLE

17 WITH DISABILITIES.

18 SOME EXAMPLES ARE REHABILITATION ACT OF 1973, VIETNAM

19 ERA VETERANS ACT, THE CIVIL SERVICE REFORM ACT OF

20 1978, AND THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACTS OF

21 1990.

22 AND THE ARCHITECTURAL BARRIERS ACT.

23 IN SPITE OF THESE AND OTHER LAWS, THE REPRESENTATION

24 OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IS REALLY NOT SOMETHING

25 WE CAN BE PROUD OF.


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1 THERE ARE THREE UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS IN THE

2 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT: WOMEN, HISPANICS, AND PEOPLE

3 WITH DISABILITIES.

4 IN THE PAST FEW DECADES, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS

5 DESIGNED SPECIAL INITIATIVES TO INCREASE THE

6 REPRESENTATION OF THESE GROUPS.

7 AND THESE INITIATIVES HAVE RESULTED IN PROGRESS.

8 WHILE WOMEN MADE UP 43.7 PERCENT OF THE FEDERAL WORK

9 FORCE IN 1991, THEY MADE UP 45.4 IN MARCH OF 2000.

10 ALTHOUGH MISPANICS ARE STILL THE ONLY

11 UNDERREPRESENTED MINORITY GROUP AND AS WE KNOW WE

12 HAVE SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON THEIR HIRING, THE

13 REPRESENTATION RATE SHOW GOOD INCREASES AS WELL.

14 WHILE THEY MADE UP 5.4 PERCENT OF THE WORK FORCE IN

15 1991, THEY REPRESENT 5.5 PERCENT IN 2000.

16 IN RECENT YEARS THE CONCERN OVER THE

17 UNDERREPRESENTATION OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAS

18 TRIGGERED MANY ACTIONS THAT ALLOW FOR PEOPLE WITH

19 DISABILITIES TO GET EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO BE HIRED AND

20 DEVELOPED AS FEDERAL EMPLOYEES.

21 AS ONE OF HIS FIRST ACTS IN CONGRESS, PRESIDENT BUSH

22 ISSUED THE NEW FREEDOM INITIATIVE.

23 THE NEW FREEDOM INITIATIVE CALLS ON AGENCIES TO HELP

24 ENSURE THAT AMERICANS WITH THE OPPORTUNITIES TO LIVE

25 CLOSE TO L FAMILIES AND FRIENDS, TO LIVE MORE


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1 INDEPENDENTLY, AND TO ENGAGE IN PRODUCTIVE EMPLOYMENT

2 AND PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY LIFE.

3 OPM HAS JOINED WITH HSS AND OTHER AGENCIES IN

4 IMPLEMENTING THE NEW FREEDOM INITIATIVE.

5 WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT'S TASK FORCE ON EMPLOYMENT OF

6 ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES WHICH RICHARD LEADS, WE SET

7 AN AGGRESSIVE NATIONAL POLICY TO BRING WORKING

8 PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES TO A GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT AT

9 THE RATE OF THE NATIONAL.

10 WE HAVE EXECUTIVE ORDER 13163 WHICH WAS ISSUED TO

11 INCREASE THE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH

12 DISABILITIES IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

13 BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THE EMPLOYMENT OF PEOPLE WITH

14 DISABILITIES IS NOT GOING TO IMPROVE BY EXECUTIVE

15 ORDER ALONE.

16 IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE WORK OF EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM

17 TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

18 LET HE TELL YOU WHERE WE WERE IN 1991.

19 WE HAD 6.7 PERCENT OF OUR WORK FORCE OF PEOPLE WITH

20 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

21 NOW TODAY, GUESS WHAT?

22 WE'RE AT 6.8 PERCENT.

23 THAT'S TRAGIC.

24 THAT REALLY IS TRAGIC.

25 WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 10 YEARS AND WE'VE


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1 MADE ONLY THAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENT.

2 SOME AGENCIES HAVE REALLY DONE BETTER THAN OTHERS.

3 SOME HAVE HAD JOBS THAT EASILY LEND THEMSELVES TO

4 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

5 OTHERS HAVE A MUCH HARDER TIME.

6 WE HAVE QUITE A RANGE IN AGENCY REPRESENTATION OF

7 EMPLOYMENT DISABILITYS FROM A LOW OF 2.5 PERCENT TO A

8 HIGH OF 13.5 PERCENT.

9 I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT OPM HAS BEEN

10 WORKING ON OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

11 WE'VE ISSUED A PLAN AND A GUIDE FOR THE EMPLOYMENT OF

12 ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES.

13 IT IS ON OUR WEB SITE HOPEFULLY MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN

14 IT.

15 I'LL GIVE YOU MY COMMERCIAL FOR MY WEB SITE LIKE JANE

16 DID ON HERS.

17 WE ARE WWW.OPM.GOV/DISABILITY.

18 WE'VE CHALLENGED AGENCIES TO INCREASE THE HIRING OF

19 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

20 WE'VE DEVELOPED NEW REGULATIONS TO MAKE IT EASIER TO

21 HIRE AND TO KEEP PEOPLE WITH PSYCHIATRIC

22 DISABILITIES.

23 WE'VE INSTALLED A NEW FEATURE ON OUR USA JOBS WHICH

24 EVERYBODY PROBABLY KNOWS IS A LIST OF WHAT THE

25 VACANCIES THAT ARE OUT THERE.


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1 WHAT WE HAVE IS SOMETHING CALLED USA JOB SUPPLY

2 E-MAIL IN WHICH ANYBODY CAN SIGN UP AND GET A LIST

3 EVERY DAY OF JOBS THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.

4 THIS IS ESPECIALLY NICE FOR PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY

5 IMPAIRMENTS THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WORK THROUGH

6 THE SYSTEM EVERY THROUGH, THEY'RE JUST AUTOMATICALLY

7 GOING TO GET A LIST.

8 WE HAVE DEVELOPED A MODEL PLAN FOR THE EMPLOYMENT OF

9 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WHICH YOU HAVE AS A HANDOUT

10 AND IT REALLY IS THE BEST OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUT

11 THERE.

12 IT PROVIDES BEST PRACTICES IN RECRUITMENT AND HIRING,

13 REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION, DEVELOPMENT OF EMPLOYEES,

14 MONITORING SUCCESS, AND PROVIDING TRAINING FOR

15 MANAGEMENT.

16 OUR HUMAN MANAGEMENT RESOURCES COUNCIL FORMED AN

17 INTERAGENCY DISABILITY COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE

18 TO AGENCIES ON HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE, HOW DO WE

19 HIRE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND HOW DO WE RETAIN

20 THEM.

21 WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY EXPERTISE

22 THROUGHOUT GOVERNMENT WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS

23 TASK FORCE WITH US AND COMING UP WITH MATERIAL THAT'S

24 GOING TO BE VERY, VERY USEFUL FOR HIRING AND

25 RETAINING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.


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1 AND I SEE SEVERAL OF THEM IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW.

2 RICHARD WAS WORKING ON IT, BARBARA EVA, JANET DORSEY,

3 DALE, AND I WANT TO THANK THEM.

4 THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE BEEN INVALUABLE.

5 ANYHOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT WEB SITE IT'S

6 GOING TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

7 WE HOPE TO LAUNCH THIS WEB SITE IN THE DECEMBER TO

8 JANUARY TIME FRAME. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE

9 DEVELOPING THIS WEB SITE THAT'S HERE TO MEET THE

10 NEEDS OF HR PEOPLE, APPLICANTS AND EMPLOYEES, AND

11 MANAGERS.

12 WE'VE HELD FOCUS GROUPS WITH APPLICANTS AND MANAGERS

13 TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW.

14 WHEN WE HAVE THE FOCUS GROUPS, THE APPLICANTS TOLD US

15 THEY NEED TO KNOW IN REAL PLAIN LANGUAGE HOW TO FIND

16 A JOB, WHAT REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION IS ABOUT, AND

17 WHERE DO WE GO IN THE AGENCIES TO FIND OUT ABOUT

18 SELECTIVE PLACEMENT.

19 SO WE'RE PROVIDING THAT. WE'RE TELLING THEM WHAT

20 THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET A CERTIFICATION THAT WILL

21 ENABLE THEM TO BE HIRED.

22 WE ALSO HELP THE MANAGERS.

23 YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO MANAGERS OR

24 TRYING TO SELL MANAGERS ON HIRING PEOPLE WITH

25 DISABILITYS? IF YOU CAN TELL THEM, LOOK, WE CAN DO


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1 THIS A LOT QUICKER THAN IF WE GO THROUGH THE

2 TRADITIONAL ANNOUNCEMENT PROCESS.

3 THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

4 AND I THINK THAT IS OUR CHALLENGE AS PRACTITIONERS TO

5 GET OUT THERE AND WORK WITH VOCATIONAL REHAB, GET

6 APPLICATIONS, SO THAT WE CAN GET MANAGERS VERY, VERY

7 QUICKLY WITH PEOPLE.

8 WE'LL ALSO BE TELLING THEM ABOUT HOW SELECTIVE

9 PLACEMENT ORDERS CAN HELP THEM FIND PEOPLE QUICKLY

10 AND A RICH RESOURCE ON REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION,

11 WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AGENCIES, WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO

12 THEM IN FINDING OUT ABOUT REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS.

13 WE'LL HAVE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK.

14 ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IN IMPLEMENTING ANY PROGRAM

15 TO INCREASE THE HIRING OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IS

16 HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'VE DONE WELL?

17 AND SO WE'VE HAD THIS REALLY COOL FEEDBACK POOL THAT

18 CAN BE USED AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS IN MANAGEMENT.

19 AND IT WILL TELL YOU ORGANIZATION BY ORGANIZATION HOW

20 YOU'RE DOING WITH HIRING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

21 IT'S BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS IN SOCIAL SECURITY THAT'S

22 BEEN USING IT FOR YEARS.

23 WE DIDN'T HAVE A FOCUS GROUP FOR HR PROFESSIONALS

24 BECAUSE WE HAD THE BEST WORKING WITH US.

25 WE KNOW WHAT THEY NEED.


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1 THEY'VE GIVEN US A LOT OF INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY

2 THINK THE HR PEOPLE NEED.

3 SO THE HR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET EVERYTHING I'VE

4 TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, PLUS INFORMATION ON HIRING

5 EMPLOYEES.

6 EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW HOW LONG TO HIRE PEOPLE.

7 WE'RE GOING TO GET A RECRUITMENT PAMPHLET THAT YOU

8 CAN USE WHEN YOU GO AROUND TO YOUR RECRUITMENT FAIRS

9 AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LANGUAGE FOR VACANCY

10 ANNOUNCEMENTS.

11 AND LOTS OF OTHER THINGS.

12 BUT TO ME THOSE ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

13 OH, ANOTHER BIG HIGHLIGHT IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU

14 A TRAINING PACKAGE THAT YOU CAN USE IN YOUR AGENCIES

15 TO TRAIN MANAGERS.

16 I THINK THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

17 WE HAVE ALSO BEEN LOOKING AT THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE THAT

18 WE BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND FRANKLY THAT'S

19 CERTIFICATION OF DISABILITIES.

20 WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW TAKES TOO LONG.

21 OUR REGULATIONS RIGHT NOW SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO GET

22 THE CERTIFICATION THAT THE PERSON IS IN FACT

23 DISABLEED AND THEN YOU GOTTA TELL US THAT THEY CAN DO

24 THE DUTIES OF THE JOB AND WHAT ACCOMMODATIONS ARE

25 NEEDED, AND GUESS WHAT?


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1 ALL THAT HAS TO BE DONE REAL QUICK WHEN THE VACANCY

2 IS UP.

3 WELL, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY PRACTICAL FOR TODAY.

4 SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS JUST HAVE THE VOCATIONAL

5 REHABILITATION COUNSELORS LET US KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS

6 IN FACT DISABLED.

7 THEN ONCE YOU GET TO THE OFFER STAGE, THEN WE CAN

8 DEAL WITH ACCOMMODATIONS THAT'S WHERE WE'D RATHER --

9 WE'D RATHER GET MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE QUALIFIED AND

10 ABLE TO GET THEIR NAMES IN FOR JOBS AND THEN LATER ON

11 WHEN A GET A SPECIFIC OFFER GET THE SPECIFICS.

12 WE WORK TO REINVIGERATE PARTNERSHIPS AT

13 THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

14 WE'VE WORKED WITH PARTNERS AND HAVE SHARED

15 INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE AS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

16 NEED.

17 AND OUR PARTNERS HAVE TALKED TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY

18 NEED.

19 WE'VE TALKED TO THE STATE VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION

20 AGENCIES, VETERANS ADMINISTRATION REHABILITATION

21 OFFICE, AND THE NATIONAL ASSCIATION OF COLLEGES AND

22 UNIVERSITIES.

23 WE REALLY HAVE PAVED THE WAY FOR INCREASED FEDERAL

24 HIRING.

25 SO OPM IS DOING A LOT OF THINGS ON A NATIONAL FEDERAL


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1 LEVEL TO HELP MAKE DISABILITY HIRING A SUCCESS.

2 BUT TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT

3 HIRING IS DONE AT THE AGENCIES.

4 AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE NEED YOU.

5 WE NEED YOUR HELP, WE NEED YOU TO GET OUT THERE AND

6 ESTABLISH EFFECTIVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE STATE

7 VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION AGENCIES AND THE VA.

8 GET OUT THERE, BE PROACTIVE, TELL THEM WHAT KINDS OF

9 JOBS YOU HAVE IN YOUR AGENCY SO YOU ASK GET A SUPPLY

10 OF CANDIDATES AND YOU CAN SEND THEM OUT TO MANAGERS

11 VACANCIES OCCUR.

12 WE NEED YOU TO WORK WITH THE WORK FORCE RECRUITMENT

13 PROGRAM.

14 THEY HAVE GREAT SOURCES OF COLLEGE STUDENTS WITHHOLD

15 LOVE TO HAVE JOBS AND MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR

16 PERMANENT PLACEMENT.

17 WE WANT YOU TO WORK WITH DINAH.

18 SHE'S GOT WONDERFUL -- I MEAN, ACCOMMODATION FOR

19 FREE.

20 HOW MUCH BETTER CAN YOU HAVE THAN THAT ONE?

21 WE WANT YOU WHO WORK WITH THE ACCOMMODATION NETWORK

22 AT THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.

23 THEY CAN HELP YOU DO ASSESSMENTS OF WHAT YOU NEED

24 DEPENDENT UPON THE DISABILITY.

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1 THERE'S ALSO LOTS OF GREAT FREE THINGS ALREADY IN

2 PLACE.

3 BUT I'M ENCOURAGING YOU TO MAKE HIRING AND RETAINING

4 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES A COMMITMENT.

5 IT INVOLVES ALL OF YOU.

6 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES COME IN ALL COLORS AND ALL

7 GENDERS AND AS WE SAW SEPTEMBER 11, ANY OF US COULD

8 BECOME DISABLED AT ANY TIME.

9 YOU CAN BE DISABLED AND BE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTOR

10 TO THE NATION, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE

11 SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTORS TO OUR NATION.

12 FOR THE SAKE OF OUR NATION WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO LET

13 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES BE UNTAPPED RESOURCES.

14 IT'S TIME WE ALL STARTED TO TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.

15 THANK YOU.

16 >> NOW THE CHANGING OF THE MIKE.

17 I'M GOING TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS AND HAVE A LITTLE

18 DISCUSSION WITH YOU, BUT BEFORE I DO, I'M GOING TO

19 MAKE A COUPLE OF BRIEF COMMENTS BECAUSE BARBARA KNOWS

20 I CAN'T RESIST NOT DOING THAT.

21 YOU KNOW DINE ATHIS DIDN'T WORK QUITE EASILY AS YOU

22 THOUGHT.

23 I KNOW WE'VE ALL THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT SEPTEMBER 11 AND

24 I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ADDRESSED THAT AND

25 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE EVENT I WAS SIGNIFICANTLY


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1 INVOLVED IN EFFORTS WITH THE WHITE HOUSE REGARDING A

2 HOST OF ISSUES IN TERMS OF RECOVERY AND RELIEF HERE

3 IN WASHINGTON AND IN NEW YORK.

4 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ASTOUNDED ME THE MOST IS

5 KIND OF THE WAY I THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE WHEN WE'RE

6 TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYMENT OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

7 YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIGGEST BARRIER TO PEOPLE WITH

8 DISABILITIES IS.

9 WHAT IS IT?

10 HELLO.

11 PREJUDICES.

12 IT'S ATTITUDES, IT'S HOW WE THINK, IT'S HOW WE WHAT I

13 HAVE, IT'S HOW WE INTERACT.

14 I LOOK AT THE WORKPLACE AND I THINK HOW WE TRY TO

15 PROMOTE THE -- HELLO.

16 HOW ARE YOU?

17 IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

18 NOTE FROM THE AUDIENCE.

19 AND I THINK ABOUT THE CULTURES THAT WE TRY TO PROMOTE

20 IN OUR WORKPLACE AND THE CULTURES TO PROMOTE A SAFE

21 WORKPLACE, AN INCLUSIVE WORKPLACE, A DIVERSE

22 WORKPLACE, AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND WHEN YOU

23 START THINKING ABOUT ALTITUDES AND THESE BARRIERS,

24 IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CULTURE OF DISABILITIES.

25 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN


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1 SOCIETY.

2 THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SEPARATE, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE

3 SEGREGATED AND HAVE SEPARATE PROGRAMS AND ALL OF

4 THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

5 I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS IT ALL IS THAT WE BEGIN TO

6 MAKE THAT LEAP FROM ALL THE SUCCESSES WE'VE HAD,

7 WE'RE GOOD THE RAMPS, WE'RE GOOD AT THE DOOR PLATES,

8 WE'RE NOT SO GOOD AT THE TTY'S YET.

9 BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS, THOSE TEND TO

10 -- IF YOU CAN'T GET INTO THE BUILDING, YOU DON'T FEEL

11 LIKE YOU BELONG.

12 IF YOU CAN'T GET THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT YOU NEED, IT

13 COMMUNICATES A CULTURE WHERE YOU DON'T BELONG.

14 WE NEED TO GET THIS.

15 WE'RE GETTING IT.

16 WE'RE NOT GETTING IT AS QUICKLY AS I'D LIKE TO SEE US

17 GET IT, BECAUSE I'M PROBABLY A LOT MORE PASSIONATA

18 THAN MOST, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

19 PEOPLE SAY I'M HAPPY TO HIRE PEOPLE WITH

20 DISABILITIES, WHERE ARE THEY?

21 OH, COME ON, GOOD GOD, GIVE ME A BREAK.

22 MOST OF THEM ARE WHERE?

23 HOME COLLECTING SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS.

24 AND THERE'S A HUGE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE BENEFITS OF

25 SOCIAL SECURITY AND GOING TO WORK.


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1 AND A LOT OF DISINCENTIVES AROUND THAT.

2 WE PASS THE TICKETS AROUND.

3 IF WE WANT TO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT IN FEDERAL AGENCIES

4 BY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WE HAVE A NEW PARTNER

5 TOO.

6 IS ANYBODY HERE FROM SOCIAL SECURITY?

7 NO, OKAY.

8 WE NEED TO WORK WITH KEN MCGILL'S OFFICE AT SOCIAL

9 SECURITY BECAUSE A TICKET IS GOING TO GO TO EVERY

10 SINGLE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFICIARY WHO WANTS TO GO

11 BACK TO WORK.

12 THAT'S A HUGE POTENTIAL POOL.

13 AND AS I THOUGHT ABOUT ALL OF THIS AS I WAS GOING

14 THROUGH IMMEDIATELY AFTER SEPTEMBER 11 BECAME PART OF

15 THE SECRETARY CHOW'S TEAM LOOKING AT EMERGENCY

16 RESPONSE IN DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, BECAUSE THE

17 DEPARTMENT OF LABOR UNFORTUNATELY SITS OVER THE I395

18 THIRD STREET TUNNEL, 85 PERCENT OF THIS BUILDING SITS

19 ON THIS TUNNEL.

20 TOOK A TOUR WITH SOME OF OUR OCCUPATION AND SAFETY

21 AND HEALTH BUILDING.

22 TWO THIRDS OF THE EXITS WILL SEND YOU ONTO THE

23 TUNNEL.

24 TO ME THIS HAD PROFOUND IMPLICATIONS.

25 BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT WORKS IN OUR


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1 EVACUATION PLANS AND IT HIT ME.

2 BECAUSE SOMEONE IN THE GROUP BEGAN TO RAISE THE

3 QUESTION ABOUT, WELL, HOW CAN WE HIRE PEOPLE WITH

4 DISABILITIES?

5 AND I WENT BOOM.

6 YOU KNOW WHAT SEPTEMBER 11 IS GOING TO DO TO OUR

7 ATTITUDES AND BARRIERS?

8 IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THEM.

9 I DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR RESPONSE BECOME A RESPONSE

10 THAT CREATES MORE BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE WITH

11 DISABILITIES BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID TO HAVE THEM IN OUR

12 WORKPLACES.

13 WE NEED TO REJOICE THAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE

14 IN OUR WORKPLACES AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR

15 WORKPLACES ARE WELCOMING, SAFE PLACES FOR EVERYONE.

16 AND MAKING IT SAFE FOR EVERYONE INCLUDES MAKING IT

17 SAFE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

18 CAN WE GET THERE?

19 ABSOLUTELY.

20 HAVE WE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING THERE?

21 SURE WE HAVE.

22 DO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE?

23 UH-UH.

24 WHEN I SEE IT STAGNATE AT 6 OR 7 PERCENT NOT GUILTY

25 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER A TEN-YEAR PERIOD, I GOTTA


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1 SAY WHAT GIVES HERE, GUYS? IS IT IN OUR RECRUITMENT?

2 IS IT IN OUR TRAINING OF MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS?

3 IS IT IN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF BARRIERS AND HOW TO

4 REDUCE THEM?

5 IT'S PROBABLY ALL OF THAT BUT IN THE END TO ME IT'S

6 ONE INCLUSIVE CULTURE FOR ALL.

7 SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU.

8 I'VE WORKED WITH ALL OF THESE GREAT PEOPLE AROUND THE

9 TABLE, MANY OF YOU OUT IN THE AUDIENCE, I KNOW WE'RE

10 GOING TO GET THERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT POLICY

11 IN PLACE.

12 THE TASK FORCE HAS GOT A YEAR LEFT ON ITS WORK AND I

13 PERSONALLY HAVE ON MY PERSONNEL PAPERS I EXPIRE.

14 WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH NA?

15 I EXPIRE ON AUGUST 26 OF 2002.

16 SO I TOOK OUT JUST A LITTLE LIFE INSURANCE FOR THE

17 EVENT.

18 BUT WE'VE GOT A YEAR LEFT TO REALLY ENCOURAGE THE

19 WORK THAT'S GOING ON AT EEOC AND WITH OPM AND WITHIN

20 THOSE AGENCIES.

21 I HAVE A JOKE THAT I SHARE WITH ROSEMARY WHEN WE TALK

22 ABOUT THE DATA BASE OF THE WEB SITE, YOU KNOW HOW WE

23 HAVE A COMBINED FEDERAL CAMPAIGN AND WE HAVE THE

24 BRAROMETER THAT RISES UP?

25 I WANT TO SEE THAT IN TERMS OF 100,000 SO WHEN I GO


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1 ON THE WEB SITE, I CAN SEE THAT BRAROMETER GO UP.

2 DO ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR PANEL MEMBERS?

3 I APPRECIATE EVERYONE AND THE GREAT JOB THEY'VE DONE.

4 YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HARD THESE PEOPLE HAVE WORKED TO

5 FURTHER THIS POLICY AND I WANT TO APPLAUD ALL OF YOU

6 AND THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK.

7 I'M GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE MICROPHONE.

8 BECAUSE THIS IS THE PHIL DONOHUE PART THAT KEEPS ME

9 SKINNY JUST TELL ME WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU'RE

10 FROM.

11 >> I'M FRANK FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF

12 EDUCATION.

13 MY QUESTION IS FOR THE AUDIENCE.

14 IS IS THERE ANYONE IN IN THE AUDIENCE FROM THE

15 DEPARTMENT'S OFFICE OF ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY?

16 OKAY.

17 DINAH, I MEET WITH THEM NEXT THURSDAY, I'LL MAKE SURE

18 I PASS ON YOUR BROCHURES AND TELL YOU THEM ABOUT YOU.

19 >> THEY'RE IN THE OTHER ROOM.

20 >> WE'RE NOT A PARTNER WITH YOU I DON'T

21 BELIEVE.

22 >> THAT'S WHAT SHE TOLD ME AT LABOR.

23 WE WERE TOO BIG.

24 >> EDUCATION IS TOO BIG?

25 >> EDUCATION HAS A GOOD PROGRAM.


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1 THERE HAVE BEEN INTERNALLY CENTRALLY FUNDED PROGRAMS

2 ALREADY.

3 YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO BECOME A PARTNER.

4 >> OKAY.

5 >> OKAY.

6 >> HI, I'M WANDA GILL, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF

7 EDUCATION.

8 AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ROSEMARY DOWNING.

9 DID WE DO ANY EXIT STUDIES OF PEOPLE WITH

10 DISABILITIES WHO ARE EXITING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

11 TO SEE WHAT THOSE REASONS WERE AND SOME SORT OF

12 ANALYSIS COMPARED WITH THEIR MANAGERS?

13 THE REASON I ASK THAT IS WE HAVE A WONDERFUL WOMAN IN

14 A WHEELCHAIR, AND I TALKED TO HER MOST OF THE TIME

15 AND SHE HAVE HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME AND HE HAD TO

16 EXIT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

17 I SAID TO HER, THERE MUST BE SOME SORT OF EXIT

18 STUDIES GOING ON.

19 ARE THERE?

20 >> I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING, WE DID A

21 SURVEY OF ALL THESE HR FOLKS AND EEO FOLKS ABOUT A

22 YEAR AGO REPLICATING THAT SURVEY WITH A THOUSAND

23 SUPERVISORS AND MANAGERS.

24 THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE AT THE END OF OCTOBER.

25 WHAT WE FOUND AND I THINK THIS GOES INTO YOUR ISSUE


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1 OF RETENTION, IS THAT COMPARED TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR,

2 IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THE LARGEST NUMBERS OF

3 COMPLAINTS IS FAILURE TO HIRE.

4 IN THE FEDERAL SECTOR, IT'S FAILURE TO PROVIDE

5 REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS AND THAT TO ME GOES BACK TO

6 THAT CULTURE IF I DON'T FEEL LIKE I DON'T BELONG AND

7 I CAN'T GET WHAT I NEED, I'M GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE

8 ELSE AND DO IT.

9 IN TERMS OF STUDIES, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY STUDIES, BUT

10 ROSEMARY MIGHT.

11 >> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY STUDIES.

12 I WOULD SAY THAT WE REALLY ENCOURAGE AGENCIES TO TAKE

13 A LOOK AT THEIR OWN PRACTICES AND FIND OUT WHAT'S

14 GOING ON.

15 IT'S KIND OF A PROBLEM THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH

16 INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL REASONS

17 THAT CAUSE PEOPLE TO EXIT, AND THEY HAPPEN AT THE

18 INDIVIDUAL WORKPLACE.

19 SO WE WOULD ENCOURAGE AGENCIES TO LOOK AT THAT.

20 >> I'M GOING TO COME THIS WAY AND THEN I'M

21 GOING TO GO THAT WAY BECAUSE THE CENTER OF THE ROOM

22 WAS EASIER FOR ME TO GET TO.

23 >> I'M CHRISTINE LIEUTEN FROM DEPARTMENT

24 OF THE INTERIOR, AND I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT

25 YOU HAD SAID ABOUT OUR PROBLEM BEING RETENTION.


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1 NOW, IN THE FURTHERMORE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

2 A LOT OF US IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STAY FOR A

3 LIFETIME AND OVER THAT LIFETIME WE DEVELOP

4 DISABILITIES.

5 SO DO YOU FEEL THAT THE RETENTION IS A PROBLEM ON THE

6 PRIVATE SIDE, IT'S ACCOMMODATION ON THE FEDERAL YOU

7 WERE SAYING, DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL THE FEDERAL

8 GOVERNMENT SHOULD GET ONTO DINAH'S PROGRAM SO THERE'S

9 NO DAMN EXCUSE FOR NOT GETTING ACCOMMODATION?

10 >> SURE! ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING

11 --

12 >> THAT'S A NO-BRAINER.

13 >> ACTUALLY WE WORKED VERY HARD FROM THE

14 TASK FORCE TO GET THAT APPROPRIATION INTO THE DEFENSE

15 AND APPROPRIATE WHEN WE DID T. WE'RE FINDING IN

16 PRELIMINARILY DATA THAT WE'RE GETTING BACK FROM FRONT

17 LINE SUPERVISORS IS THAT HAVING NOT ONLY CENTRALLY

18 FUNDED ACCOMMODATIONS FOR TECHNOLOGY BUT A CENTRAL

19 RESOURCE FROM THE AGENCY TO ASK FOR ANY TYPE OF

20 ACCOMMODATION WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY IN EMPLOYING

21 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

22 THE MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS TELL US THE SAME THING

23 AS HR PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT TRAINED.

24 THEY DON'T KNOW.

25 SO HAVE BEEN, NO. 1, THE FUNDING TO PROVIDE


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1 REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF

2 THE AGENCY BUDGET, YOU KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS THE BUDGET

3 LINE, IS IT GOING TO AND OUT OF MY BUDGET AND TWO,

4 HAVING A CENTRALIZED RESOURCE ABOUT ACCOMMODATIONS I

5 THINK MAKE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE.

6 AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK HARD

7 AT IN OUR NEXT YEAR.

8 I'M GOING TO TAKE TWO MORE QUESTIONS.

9 DID WE GET COPIES OF THE VIDEO TAPE?

10 >> I'M NANCY FROM DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY.

11 WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT, IN THE CFR, THIS IS ON

12 REASSIGNMENTS ON ACCOMMODATIONS.

13 I KNOW IT STATES THAT REASSIGNMENTS CAN BE DONE

14 WITHIN THE COMMUTING AREA.

15 BUT THERE IS A REVISION OF THAT WHERE YOU GO OUTSIDE

16 THE COMMUNITY.

17 IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU HAVE TOLD

18 SOMEONE THAT WE CAN ONLY REASSIGN WITHIN THE

19 COMMUTING AREA, SHOULD WE GO BACK NOW AND JUST TELL

20 THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT WE CAN REASSIGN OUTSIDE THE

21 COMMUTING AREA AND SHOULD WE -- THERE ARE AGENCIES

22 THAT WILL NOT OFFER TRAVEL, MOVING EXPENSES.

23 SO IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO TO ACCOMMODATE?

24 >> LAST QUESTION FIRST.

25 WHEN PROVIDING REASSIGNMENT AS A REASONABLE


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1 ACCOMMODATION, THE REHAB ACT DOES NOT REQUIRE AN

2 AGENCY TO PICK UP MOVING OR RELOCATION EXPENSES FOR

3 THE EMPLOYEE WHO'S TAKING THE REASSIGNMENT TO ANOTHER

4 AREA.

5 IN TERMS OF THE ISSUE YOU MENTIONED THAT WHICH IS A

6 SOMEWHAT HYPER TECHNICAL ONE, BUT JUST THAT TO FILL

7 EVERYONE ELSE IN ON WHAT SHE'S ASKING ABOUT, THERE'S

8 A SECTION IN THE GOVERNING REGULATIONS UNDER THE

9 REHAB ACCOUNT IN EMPLOYMENT THAT SAYS WHEN YOU'RE

10 LOOKING FOR REASSIGNMENT, LOOK IN THE COMMUTING AREA.

11 AND THERE'S A PENDING REVISION IN THAT AND THE CHANGE

12 IN THE REGULATIONS WAS PENDING WHEN THE

13 ADMINISTRATIONS CHANGED AND PRESUMABLY IT WILL BE

14 CHANGED TO THE CURRENT POSITION WHERE YOU LOOK

15 NATIONWIDE FOR A POSSIBLE VACANCY WHEN YOU'RE

16 REASSIGNING SOMEONE, ANY COMPONENT, ANY GEOGRAPHIC

17 AREA WHERE YOUR AGENCY MIGHT HAVE A VACANCY ABSENT

18 UNDUE HARDSHIP.

19 AND IN TERMS OF CURRENT SITUATIONS THAT YOU HAVE,

20 GIVEN THAT POSSIBLE DIFFERENCE IN THE STANDARDS, I

21 DON'T KNOW THAT IT'LL NECESSARILY BE AN ISSUE IN THE

22 SITUATION YOU'VE DESCRIBED BECAUSE IF YOU'VE ACTUALLY

23 ALREADY FOUND A VACANCY TO REASSIGN SOMEONE TO, AND

24 IF IT'S AT THEIR SAME LEVEL, SAME GRADE, AND WITHIN

25 THEIR SKILL AREA, YOU ALREADY FOUND AN EFFECTIVE


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1 ACCOMMODATION FOR THEM WITHIN THE COMMUTING AREA.

2 I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'D NECESSARILY NEED TO LOOK

3 BEYOND THAT. JUST IN A MORE GENERAL SENSE, I HAVE TO

4 SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS ISSUE REGARDING HOW

5 FAR YOU HAVE TO LOOK IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AS MUCH OF

6 A CONCERN AS AN EMPLOYER'S THINK.

7 I'VE HEARD MANY EMPLOYERS WHEN I'VE SPOKEN SAY, OH,

8 MY GOSH, HOW CAN YOU TELL US WE NEED TO LOOK

9 NATIONWIDE?

10 THAT'S SO BURDENSOME.

11 IT'S A PRACTICAL MATTER, IT'S PART OF THE INTERACTIVE

12 PROCESS AT THE OUTSET, AGENCIES SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO

13 THE PERSON WHO'S REQUESTED ACCOMMODATION AND TALK

14 ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE WILLING TO BE REASSIGNED TO.

15 INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAVE

16 FAMILYS AND MORTGAGES AND LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY IN

17 WHICH THEY RESIDE AND MANY PEOPLE ARE ONLY WILLING OR

18 INTERESTED IN BEING REASSIGNED TO A CERTAIN DISTANCE.

19 SO IN MANY INSTANCES IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE

20 AN ISSUE.

21 AND YOU CAN FIND WHAT THAT PERSON IS INTERESTED IN

22 AND MEMORIALIZE THAT IN YOUR FILE.

23 IF THE PERSON IS INTERESTED IN NATIONWIDE

24 REASSIGNMENT, THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THEM ABSENT

25 AN UNDUE HARDSHIP.


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1 >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ONE MORE QUESTION

2 AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OPHELIA WHO

3 HAS A COUPLE OF LOGISTICAL THINGS THAT I THINK SHE

4 NEEDS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.

5 >> I'M JANET DORSEY WITH DEPARTMENT OF

6 TRANSPORTATION AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS CHRISTINE AND

7 HER QUESTION AND ALSO SUPPORT WHAT RICHARD HAS SAID

8 THAT WE HAVE -- WE ADDRESS BOTH ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY

9 AND THE PERSONNEL TYPE OF ACCOMMODATION ISSUES.

10 AND WE ARE KIND OF A SELF-CONTAINED GROUP.

11 BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERY FEDERAL AGENCY TO

12 ESTABLISH SOME TYPE OF SUPPORT UNIT, NOT JUST THE

13 DISABILITY PROGRAM MANAGER, BUT SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP

14 ADDRESS THE TRAINING ISSUES, THE PERSONNEL ISSUES

15 THAT COME UP, BECAUSE THE ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY

16 REQUESTS ARE KIND OF CUT AND DRY.

17 WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO THE PERSONNEL ISSUES AS

18 IT RELATES TO REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS, THOSE CAN

19 GET A LITTLE INVOLVED SOMETIMES, AND IT'S VERY

20 IMPORTANT TO HAVE A RESOURCE WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT

21 AND AGENCY WHO HAS THE EXPERTISE TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE

22 OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO YOUR MANAGERS AND

23 SUPERVISORS.

24 THAT'S WHERE WE FIND IT TO BE THE MOST CHALLENGING IN

25 OUR DEPARTMENT.


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1 I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, BUT ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU

2 TO GO BACK AND ESTABLISH THOSE IF YOU HAVEN'T

3 ALREADY.

4 >> THANK YOU.

5 I ALSO THINK THAT ONE OF THE WAYS -- THIS IS THE LAST

6 THING I'LL SAY AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER. ONE OF

7 THE THINGS THAT I HOPE YOU'RE DOING, I ALWAYS ASK FOR

8 PEOPLE TO LOOK FOR GPRA PLANS.

9 I GOT IMMERSEED IN GPRA.

10 IF WE HAVE THESE PERSONNEL GOALS AND HOW ARE THEY

11 PERMEATING WITHIN YOUR AGENCY'S GPRA PLANS? IF WE

12 WANT TO SET UP THESE KINDS OF CENTERS AND TECHNICAL

13 ASSISTANCE AND TECHNOLOGY PIECES, THAT'S GOING TO

14 HAVE TO BE DRIVEN BY PERFORMANCE DATA.

15 I THINK WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET THE LEVELS OF

16 FUNDING THAT WE NEED IN THE AGENCIES.

17 THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, ENJOY THE REST OF

18 CONFERENCE.

19 I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OPHELIA, AND AGAIN,

20 THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

21 OPHELIA: HELLO, EVERYONE.

22 FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M OPHELIA FALLS,

23 CHAIR PERSON OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND I'D LIKE

24 TO THANK BARBARA EAVA FOR COORDINATING THIS WORKSHOP.

25 FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING VIDEOS OF


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1 THIS I WILL MAKE SURE YOU CAN GET A COPY OF IT.

2 IT WILL BE ARCHIVED ON THE WWW SECTION 508.GOV WEB

3 SITE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CLICK AND SEE A VIDEO CLIP OF

4 THE WORKSHOP.

5 ONE OF THE REASONS I'M IN THIS WORKSHOP IS I WANTED

6 TO ASK MS. DINAH COHEN, PLEASE, DINAH HAS SET UP FOR

7 THE IDEAS 2001 CONFERENCE THE FEDERAL INITIATIVE ROOM

8 AND IN THAT ROOM I'M SURE SHE'S TOLD EVERYONE SHE'S

9 ALLOWED GOVERNMENT TO PUT UP EXHIBITS AND TO TALK

10 ABOUT THEIR OWN ACCOMMODATION PROGRAMS.

11 AND THE IDEAS 2001 PLANNING COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO

12 THANK COMMITTEE WITH A PLACARD.

13 THANK YOU, DINAH

14 (APPLAUSE)

15 AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PREPARE FOR THE INDUSTRY

16 PANEL BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD.

17 THANK YOU.

18 (APPLAUSE)

19 ....... Rex lint, Sheila Newman Newman Ken Salaets,

20 Salaets, Mike Takemura, accessibility program

21 director Compaq computer Coopereration.

22 .

23 .

24 .

25 ...


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1 (Recess)

2 ...: .

3 .

4 .

5 .

6 ....

7 >> GOOD MORNING.

8 I'M GOING TO GET STARTED HERE.

9 AS THE CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER IN CHARGE OF ALL THE

10 TECHNOLOGY THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION /*

11 EDUCATION, I THINK I SHOULD HAVE SHOWN UP 15 MINUTES

12 EARLY TO CHECK THE SYSTEM OUT.

13 I THINK WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE.

14 LOOKS THAT WAY.

15 AGAIN, I'M CRAIG LUGART, AND I'M PLAYING MODERATOR

16 TODAY.

17 I WOULD LIKE TO SET SOME QUICK GROUND RULES.

18 FIRST I APOLOGIZE AFTER 15 YEARS MY DENTIST CONVINCED

19 ME TO GO INTO ORTHODONTURE AND THAT IS A MISTAKE.

20 FOR SOME REASON YOUR LIPS AND THESE WIRES DON'T GO

21 WELL TOGETHER.

22 SO I APOLOGIZE IF SOMETIMES YOU KNOWLEDGE I'M

23 SPEAKING IN CLINGON.

24 WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE WHO HAVE A

25 GREAT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION TO IMPORT TO TO TODAY.


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1 THIS IS TOM FROM MICROSOFT.

2 SHEILA NEWMAN, REX LINT WHO IS FROM THE INFORMATION

3 TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA.

4 I SHOULD SAY SHE'LL IS IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF VICE

5 PRESIDENT OF CESSI.

6 AND THEN I HAVE MIKE TAKEMURA FROM COMPAQ HERE AND I

7 ALSO HAVE KEN SALAETS WHO IS DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT

8 RELATIONS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY COUNCIL.

9 AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY LIPS AND

10 BRACES WORK AND SHORT SHORT GET IT TURNED OVER TO

11 THEM SO I CAN GET OUT OUT THE TROUBLE I'M GOING TO

12 GET MYSELF INTO.

13 I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME FOLKS REAL QUICK.

14 JOHN SEYMOUR AND HIS TEAM FROM THE GENERAL SERVICE

15 ADMINISTRATION, PARTICULARLY TERRY WEAVEER, OPHELIA

16 FALL FAUL WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON PULL THIS EVENT

17 TOGETHER PUT A LOT OF HOURS ON THIS.

18 AND I ALSO NEED TO EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO JENNIFER

19 SHEHE WHO IS LEADING THE PRESIDENT'S DAY FREEDOM

20 INITIATIVE AND WHO HAS BEEN A GREAT SUPPORTOR FOR THE

21 ADMINISTRATION ON SECTION 508 AS WELL AS ANGELA

22 STYLES AND MIKE FOREMAN FROM OMB WHO AGAIN HAVE

23 PICKED UP THE ADMINISTRATION FLAG ON 508 AS A FORMER

24 NAVAL AVIATOR I CONSIDER DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

25 UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK WE ALL LEARNED ON SEPTEMBER 11


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1 AS WE HAD AIRCRAFT FLYING OVER THE CITY IN WHAT IS

2 CALLED IN MY WAR HIGH COVER.

3 AND I NEED TO THANK MY LEADERSHIP DOCTOR, SECRETARY

4 OF EDUCATION, ROD IS AN A STRONG SUPPORT OF THE

5 INNERCORE OF 508 AS WELL AS DR. BOB PASTER NAK, THE

6 ASSISTANT SECRETARY FROM THE OFFICE OFS SPECIAL

7 EDUCATION.

8 I MYSELF HAVE BEEN PLAYING WITH AND FOSTERING AND

9 MENTORING 508 SINCE I ARRIVED HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS

10 AGO.

11 COMING FROM PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND BEFORE THAT A 20

12 PLUS YEAR YEAR IN THE NAVY.

13 I MENTIONED I WAS A NAVAL AVIATOR, AND I'M GOING TO

14 GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE HISTORY IN THAT AS WE PUT THAT

15 IN CONTEXT IN A FEW MINUTES, BUT I MUST ADMIT MY

16 RETURN IN MANY WAYS WAS DRIVEN BITE 508 INITIATIVE

17 ITSELF.

18 AT THAT TIME THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, SECRETARY

19 RILEY FELT STRONGLY THAT 508 AND THAT INITIATIVE

20 WHICH REALLY COMES FROM PRESIDENT BUSH, BUSH 1, AND

21 ADAN AND THE AFFIRMATION OF THE RIGHTS OF THE

22 DISABLED, REALLY THAT WE RECOGNIZE THERE WAS A STRONG

23 NEED, AN ADMISSION FOR A LOT OF FOLKS TO MAKE THIS A

24 LIVING AND VIABLE LAW.

25 IN THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR AS WE GOT CLOSE TO THE 508


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1 ROLL-OUT, IT BECAME CLEAR TO A NUMBER OF FOLKS, MOST

2 OF THE NAMES I JUST MENTIONED AS WELL AS A VARIETY OF

3 FOLKS IN CO COUNCIL, WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE MADE A

4 STRONG, CONCERTED EFFORT AND VOICE.

5 AND I NEED TO THANK BRIEFLY HERE THE MEMBERS OF THE

6 50 ATE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE MENTORSHIP THAT OMB

7 HAS PROVIDED AND ALL THE WORK CSA HAS PROVIDED AS WE

8 ROLLED OUT.

9 AND THE LAST FOLKS I'D LIKE TO THANK IS INDUSTRY

10 ASSOCIATIONS AND INDUSTRY ITSELF.

11 I THINK EVERYONE HAS RECOGNIZED THIS IS A GREAT

12 LIVING LAW AND THE PARTNERSHIP IT'S BEEN SHOWN BY

13 INDUSTRY AROUND THIS LAW INCLUDING WORKING THROUGH

14 SOME VERY DIFFICULT ISSUES WITH HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH

15 THIS LAW, PARTICULARLY IN AN AGE WHERE TOMORROW WE

16 HAVE NEW TECHNOLOGY AND AT THE SAME TIME A NEW

17 SOLUTION.

18 SO I WANT TO EXTEND MY HEART FELT THANKS AS A

19 DISABLED INDIVIDUAL TO INDUSTRY WHO HAS TRULY

20 EMBRACED THIS.

21 AS I GO INTO MY FORMAL REMARKS BEFORE I TURN IT OVER,

22 I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A FEW MOMENTS OF MY OWN

23 BACKGROUND AND THEN RAISE A CHALLENGE TO YOU.

24 I NOTICE THERE'S A FEW FACES IN THIS ROOM THAT HAVE

25 SEEN ME SPEAK BEFORE.


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1 I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF NEW FACES IN HERE.

2 I'M GOING TO TRY TO PUT THIS IN A CONTEXT THAT NONE

3 OF YOU WILL EVER FORGET N. MY OWN CASE, I ALWAYS

4 CONSIDER MYSELF A FAIRLY GOOD PERSON WHO WOULD ALWAYS

5 HELP AN INDIVIDUAL IF THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH A

6 WHEELCHAIR GETTING THROUGH A DOOR, A BLIND PERSON

7 NAVIGATING ACROSS THE STREET.

8 BUT I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT MEANT TO LIVE

9 IN THOSE SHOES.

10 I CERTAINLY FELT LIKE I KNEW THEY WERE BURDENED IN

11 SOME WAY, BUT IN 1992 AFTER DELIVERING AN AIRCRAFT

12 OVERSEAS FOR THE UNITED STATES NAVY TO A FOREIGN

13 COUNTRY.

14 I CAME BACK WITH WHAT AT THAT TIME I THOUGHT WAS THE

15 WORST FLU I EVER HAD IN MY LIFE.

16 I WENT OUT FOR MY DAILY RUN, NAVAL AVIATORS TRY TO

17 LOOK BUFF, AND I NOTICED MY LEFT FOOT JUST WASN'T

18 ACTING RIGHT DURING THE RUN.

19 A SCANT SIX MONTHS LATER AT NAVY BETHESDA WITH MY

20 DAUGHTER, I ACTUALLY BUMPED INTO MY ORTHOPEDIC

21 SURGEON WHO PRESCRIBED THE ORTHOTICS TO MY RUNNING

22 SHOES, AND I EXPLAINED TO BECKY THAT SHE HAD DONE

23 SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY ORTHOTICS AND UNFORTUNATELY

24 AS I EXPLAINED MY COMPLAINTS, IT LANDED ME IN AN

25 MMRXS MRXS CHAMBER IN LESS THAN 18 HOURS.


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1 IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MILITARY MEDICINE, YOU

2 KNOW IF THEY GO FROM A DISCUSSION WITH YOUR DOCTOR TO

3 AN MRI CHAMBER IN 18 HOURS THEY THINK YOU'RE GOING TO

4 DIE.

5 SO NOTHING HAPPENS THAT FAST IN MILITARY MEDICINE.

6 OF COURSE OVER TIME THIS DISEASE WAS MS INITIALLY,

7 THEN THE NAVY PROVED THAT IT WASN'T MS AND THEY THREW

8 ME ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NATIONAL NASHL OF HEALTH.

9 AND AFTER NINE MORE MONTHS IN 1995, IT WAS DETERMINED

10 THAT I HAD ONE OF THE RAREST DISEASES ON THE FACE OF

11 THE EARTH, PRIMARY LATERAL SCLEROSIS.

12 DON'T WRITE IT DOWN, DON'T REMEMBER IT.

13 YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF LIVING OUT OF A 40 STORY

14 HALL AND HITTING THE GROUND THAN EVER GETTING PLS.

15 THERE ARE ABOUT 40 KNOWN CASES IN THE UNITED STATES,

16 MAYBE 250 WORLDWIDE.

17 BOTTOM LINE, MY LIFE WAS CHANGED INSTANTANEOUSLY. I

18 SHOULDN'T SAY INSTANT SNANTUOUSLY.

19 I HAD TO GROW INTO IT ACROSS FOUR YEARS.

20 BUT I WENT FROM BEING AN AIRCRAFT -- A PILOT, AN

21 AVIATOR, A SKI INSTRUCTOR, NATIONALLY RANKED SQUASH

22 PLAYER IN THE NATIONAL AREA, TO ALL MY LIFE WAS

23 REDEFINED.

24 NOW, 508 ISN'T JUST FOR ME, THOUGH.

25 508 HAS MUCH LARGER IMPACTS FOR ALL OF SOCIETY.


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1 508'S IMPORTANT TO ME JUST LIKE ADA'S IMPORTANT.

2 BUT I WOULD JOIN YOU TO GO THROUGH A FEW SLIDES WITH

3 ME, AND I'LL PROVE TO YOU HOW IMPORTANT 508 IS TO USE

4 AS AN ABLE-BODIED PERSON WHO RAN HERE TO MAKE THE

5 TIME.

6 THIS IS THE AGE GROUP THEY IN FACT BECAME DISABLED

7 IN.

8 I'M THE RED PERSON IN THE CENTER OF THAT SCREEN.

9 HANG ON.

10 I CAN'T DO THAT YET.

11 AT THAT STAGE, A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE, ABOUT 5

12 PERCENT HAVE A FUNCTIONAL DISABILITY.

13 I DIDN'T CHOOSE TO HAVE THIS DISABILITY.

14 THIS WAS WHEREVER HOWEVER IT GOT HEEFRX WHAT I WOULD

15 LIKE YOU TO DO IS CHOOSE A BODY ON THE SLIDE AND YOU

16 CAN THANK DR. GREG VANDER HIDEN AT TRACE CENTER FOR

17 THIS DESIGNATION THAT I'VE BEEN USING FOR A YEAR AND

18 A HALF.

19 EVERY TIME I SAY, WELL, THAT'S GETTING OLD, LET'S

20 TAKE IT OUT, I ALWAYS GET FEEDBACK.

21 NO, NO, LEAVE IT IN; IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

22 YOU DO.

23 SO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE DONE THIS, PLAY THE GAME

24 AGAIN.

25 NOW, THE RULES OF THE GAME, ONCE YOU CHOOSE ONE UP


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1 THERE, YOU CANNOT CHANGE THAT BODY.

2 I DIDN'T GET TO CHANGE MINE.

3 SO LET'S GO AND AGE OURSELVES IN A FEW YEARS.

4 AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

5 AT 54, WE'VE MOVED OUT TO ABOUT WHERE 15 PERCENT OF

6 THE POPULATION HAS A NEED.

7 ACTUALLY 6 PERCENT HAS A SEVERE, AND 20 PERCENT OF

8 THE POPULATION HAS A FUNCTIONAL LIMITATION AS WE GET

9 TO 65ISH, WE'RE APPROACHING A FULL THIRD.

10 AND ONE IN 10 HAVE A SEVERE LIMITATION.

11 HOW MANY FOLKS IN HERE PLAN ON LIVING PAST 65 YEARS

12 OLD?

13 YEAH.

14 AND EVERYONE HERE WANTS TO GET AT LEAST THAT FAR.

15 YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET INTO THAT 65 TO 69?

16 ONE OUT OF FIVE HAS THIS SEVERE LIMITATION AND WE'RE

17 APPROACHING HALF OF YOU IN THIS ROOM HAVING A

18 FUNCTIONAL LIMITATION.

19 NOW, HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE YOUR BODY

20 NOW AND THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T CHANGED YOUR BODY

21 DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THE NEXT SLIDE?

22 I USUALLY ASK THE QUESTION HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO

23 LIVE INTO YOUR 70S AND WE ALL KNOW THESE DAYS THROUGH

24 MEDICAL SCIENCE AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN FACT WE'RE

25 DOING A GREAT JOB LIVING INTO OUR 70S.


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1 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE WE CAN MOVE THERE, OUR BODY

2 SYSTEMS AREN'T DESIGNED TO MAKE US ACT LIKE 25

3 YEAR-OLDS WHEN WE GET THERE.

4 NOW WE'RE UP TO WHERE OVER 50 PERCENT AND 1 IN 5.

5 AND MOST FOLKS WOULD SAY THEY'RE EXPECTING IN THEIR

6 75TH, 80TH BIRTHDAY, AND STATISTICS SAY YOU'LL GET

7 THERE.

8 IF YOU'RE THE ONE IN 4 THAT HAVE THE LIGHT GRAY BODY

9 UP THERE, AND IF YOU'RE WILLING TO BAT THAT YOU'RE 1

10 IN 4, THEN MAYBE 5 IN 8 IS NOT IMPORTANT.

11 BUT IF YOU'RE THREE QUARTERS OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON

12 THAT SCREEN IF YOU CHOSE A BODY AND ONE IN 2 THAT

13 HAVE A SEVERE FUNCTIONAL LIMITATION, I THINK THAT

14 SLIDE DRIVES HOME WHY 508 IS HERE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

15 IT'S NOT JUST A LAW FOR THOSE OF US THAT RUN AROUND

16 IN WHEELS.

17 IT IS A LAW FOR THE 6 MILLION PLUS CHILDREN AS WE SEE

18 IN EDUCATION WHEN I TRY TO HELP MAKE SURE TO GET A

19 TRANSPARENCY DISABILITY, WE SAY, AS THEY GO THROUGH

20 THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS.

21 AND 54 MILLION CURRENTLY DISABLED INDIVIDUALS.

22 BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SLIDE AND LOOK AROUND AT AT

23 FOLKS AROUND YOU THAT MAY BE LOSING A LITTLE HAIR,

24 MAY BE USING A LITTLE HAIR COLOR, AND ARE RECOGNIZING

25 THAT WE'RE GETTING UP -- WE'RE ALMOST 40, THEN MAYBE


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1 508 HAS A NEW MEANING TO YOU.

2 I'D LIKE TO STEAL A LINE FROM A GOOD FRIEND OVER IN

3 DOD AND SAY, "THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS COIN, I'LL TURN

4 OVER CITY NEXT SEVERY TIME WE'VE DONE THESE KIND OF

5 THINGS, NEW INDUSTRIES HAVE COME OUT OUT IT." WHEN

6 EVERYONE FOUGHT FOR CLOSED CAPTIONING AND INDUSTRY AT

7 THAT TIME HAD SOME RESISTANCE TO THE IDEA OF CLOSED

8 CAPTIONING ON TELEVISION, NO ONE WOULD HAVE IMAGINED

9 THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY USES FOR CLOSED CAPTIONING

10 WHICH WOULD OPEN AN ENTIRELY NEW MARKETS WOULD BE

11 SPORTS BARS AND GYMS.

12 NOW, THOSE OF YOU THAT USE CLOSED CAPTIONING BECAUSE

13 YOU'RE DISABLED STILL GET THE BENEFIT, BUT WE'VE SEEN

14 ENTIRELY NEW INDUSTRIES.

15 508 CREATES TECHNIQUES THAT WORK WITH IPAC AS I'M

16 WATCHING MY FRIEND NEXT TO ME WORKING ON HIS IPAC, OR

17 MY BLACKBERRY SYSTEMS IN CARS TO READ WEB SITES.

18 SO THE SAME THING FOR CAR HERE HAS WONDERFUL USES FOR

19 WHAT'S COMING IN THE 21ST CENTURY.

20 I THINK I'VE MADE MY POINT AND I'D LIKE TO TURN IT

21 OVER TO THE PANEL TO COMPLETE THEIR REMARKS OR

22 ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS.

23 IF YOU WOULD HOLD UNTIL THAT TIME, THAT WOULD BE

24 APPRECIATED.

25 NOW, I'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED THAT MY SPEAKERS ARE GOING


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1 TO GO IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER: LET ME TURN OVER TO

2 THIS TIME TO KEN, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT

3 RELATIONS FOR THE TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY COUNCIL.

4 KEN?

5 KEN: THANK YOU, CRAIG.

6 IS IT ON?

7 IT'S NOT ON.

8 IS IT?

9 OKAY.

10 THANK YOU, CRAIG.

11 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS

12 CONFERENCE ON BEHALF OF ITI, THE INFORMATION

13 TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY COUNCIL.

14 BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE I

15 REPRESENT THE HOUSEHOLD NAMES OF THE INFORMATION

16 TECHNOLOGY PEOPLE, JUST STELLAR COMPANIES SUCH AS

17 COMPAQ, IBM, HEWLETT-PACKARD, I COULD GO DOWN THE

18 LIST.

19 YOU'VE HEARD OF THESE COMPANIES BECAUSE THEY'RE

20 HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL, THEY'RE INNOVATIVE, AND THEY'RE

21 PROGRESSIVE.

22 I COULD PROBABLY ADD THAT THE /* THAT AT THIS POINT

23 IN TIME A NUMBER OF THEM ARE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF

24 DIFFICULTY WITH THE ECONOMY, BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE

25 ANTICIPATE TO MOVING TOGETHER PROGRESSIVELY IN NS OF


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1 PROVIDING THE SOLUTIONS THAT NOT ONLY THE GOVERNMENT

2 NEEDS BUT INDIVIDUAL USERS NEED INCLUDING PEOPLE WITH

3 DISABILITIES.

4 I HAVE THE GOOD FORTUNE OF WORKING FOR AN ASSOCIATION

5 THAT HAS WHAT I BELIEVE IS INSPIDER LEADERSHIP.

6 RED DAWSON IS THE PRESIDENT OF THAT ASSOCIATION.

7 HE'S ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO THIS ISSUE AND HAS GIVEN

8 ME A LOT OF TIME AND LATITUDE TO NOT ONLY ATTEND

9 CONFERENCES.

10 THIS IS THE FIRST OF FOUR THIS MONTH, BUT ALSO TO

11 START TO LOOK AT SOME IDEAS AND SOME WAYS IN HOW WE

12 CAN ADVANCE THE BALL, SO TO SPEAK, DOWN THE FIELD,

13 AND NOT JUST THE FIELD OF THE WHITE HOUSE OR THE

14 VARIOUS AGENCIES BUT ALSO LOOKING AT STATE ISSUES AND

15 INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENTS.

16 WE HAVE A FAIRLY BROAD HORIZON RELATIVE TO SERVING

17 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, AND FRANKLY ALL PEOPLE, AND

18 WE INTEND TO MOVE FAIRLY AGGRESSIVELY ONCE WE CAN

19 MOVE PAST THIS OCTOBER SCHEDULE.

20 I HAD BEEN IN WASHINGTON FOR LONGER THAN I REALIZED,

21 16 YEARS NOW.

22 I HAVE BEEN WITH ITI FOR ROUGHLY 11 OF THOSE YEARS.

23 PRIOR TO THAT I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR ON A HOUSE

24 COMMITTEE, THEN CALLED THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS.

25 AND THEN HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ON A NUMBER OF


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1 ISSUES, INCLUDING AVIATION SECURITY.

2 SO THE RECENT EVENTS HAVE HIT VERY CLOSE TO MY HEART

3 AND ALSO WITH FAMILYS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT I'M AWARE

4 OF WHO HAVE LOST MEMBERS IN THAT GRAVE INCIDENT, OR

5 THOSE INCIDENTINGS.

6 NEVERTHELESS, WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THESE

7 ISSUES AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS CONFERENCE

8 WAS HELD AND THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WERE ACTUALLY

9 ABLE TO ATTEND THIS ONE, WHEREAS WE'VE HAD SOME

10 TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES.

11 LIED LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING

12 IN THIS ISSUE.

13 WE STARTED OUT EARLIER WITH MY FRIEND JOHN GOD FREE

14 WORKING ON [] I THINK HE WAS WELL NOTED, WELL

15 PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND ADVOCATE A

16 POSITION THAT I THINK IS FAIRLY TYPICAL OF OUR

17 INDUSTRY AND THAT IS THAT WE ADVOCATE FLEXIBLE MARKET

18 SOLUTIONS RATHER THAN REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS AND

19 THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR THAT.

20 INNOVATION, IF WE DON'T INNOVATE, IN OUR INDUSTRY,

21 FRANKLY WE DIE.

22 AND THE REASON BEING THAT WHEN YOU HAVE PRODUCT

23 CYCLES THAT ARE ANYWHERE FROM SIX MONTHS TO TWO TWOS,

24 IF YOU'RE NOT CONSTANTLY MOVING FORWARD, YOU'RE NOT

25 MOVING AT ALL F. YOU LOOK ACROSS THE TERRAIN OF


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1 INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES, YOU WILL SEE THE

2 SKELETONS OF IN SOME CASES MANY ADVANCED COMPANIES

3 THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON MIGHT HAVE LOWERED THEIR

4 EYES OFF THE HORIZON, MIGHT HAVE LOOKED AT SOME

5 ISSUES AS OBSTACLES RATHER THAN CHALLENGES AND

6 OPPORTUNITIES AND AS A CONSEQUENCE GOT SWEPT ASIDE IN

7 THIS MARKETPLACE THAT MOVES BEYOND THE SPEED OF LIGHT

8 IN SOME CASES.

9 WE LOOKED AT 508 AS AN OPPORTUNITY, AS AN OPPORTUNITY

10 NOT ONLY TO WORK WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND WORK WITH

11 THE ADVOCACY COMMUNITIES BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE

12 SOLUTIONS.

13 WE ARE SOLUTION PROVIDERS.

14 I COULD GO DOWN A LONG LIST OF DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES

15 THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED.

16 CRAIG REFERENCED A FEW OF THEM THAT MY COMPANIES HAVE

17 HAD A HAND IN.

18 IT'S RATHER EXTENSIVE AND BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF TIME

19 I WON'T GO INTO THAT.

20 BUT RIGHT AWAY WE SAW 508 AS SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO

21 EMBRACE, AND WE APPROACH TODAY A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

22 ONE OF THE ISSUES I COVER IN ADDITION TO 508 IS

23 FEDERAL POLICY.

24 AND IN THE PAST IN DEALING WITH GSA, LFPP, OTHER

25 AGENCY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE FOUND


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1 OURSELVES SOMETIMES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF ISSUES,

2 SOMETIMES DISTINCTLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF ISSUES

3 AND HAVE HAD TO SPEND CONSIDERABLE TIME AND RESOURCES

4 TRYING TO REDIRECT THE FOCUS OF GOVERNMENT.

5 IN MY EXPERIENCE I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT SECTION 508

6 WAS UNIQUE IN THAT THE POSITION THAT MR. DAWSON SET

7 OUT FOR US WAS NOT TO CHALLENGE 508, NOT TO TRY TO

8 CREATE OBSTACLES, BUT RATHER TO EMBRACE THE PROCESS

9 TO WORK WITH GOVERNMENT AND THE ADVOCACY COMMUNITY AS

10 PARTNERS, FULL PARTNERS, AND TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO

11 TO MAKE THIS WORK SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

12 AND WITH THAT SENSE, REPRESENTING A DYNAMIC INDUSTRY,

13 WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK CLOSELY

14 WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND THE VARIOUS COMMUNITYS TO TRY

15 TO FIND WAYS TO SAW WHATEVER ISSUES OR CHALLENGES

16 REMAIN.

17 AND THERE ARE MANY.

18 WE CERTAINLY WON'T TRY TO DISCOUNT THAT.

19 ONE THING ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY, IT MAKES GOOD SENSE,

20 IT MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE.

21 CASE IN POINT: ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE UNDERTOOK WAS

22 TO CREATE A VOLUNTARY PRODUCT ACCESSIBILITY TEMPLATE

23 WORKING CLOSELY WITH TERRY WEAVER OF GSA AND HER

24 COLLEAGUES, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A DEVICE

25 THROUGH THE INTERNET THAT WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD TOOL


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1 FOR PROVIDING INFORMATION TO ENABLE THE VARIOUS

2 FEDERAL OFFICIALS TO CONDUCT THE MARKET RESEARCH THAT

3 THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE WHEN THEY PUT OUT A

4 SOLICITATION FOR SOMETHING THEY NEED TO BUY, THAT IT

5 MAKES SENSE, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE

6 MARKETPLACE THAT ADDRESSS THAT, AND THAT INDUSTRY AS

7 WELL AS GOVERNMENT IS EDUCATED IN NS OF THE VARIOUS

8 REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

9 IT MAKES GOOD SENSE FOR ITI AS WELL.

10 EVER SINCE WE PUT THAT TEMPLATE UP, IT HAS INCREASED

11 THE TRAFFIC TO OUR WEB SITE, AND I AM PROUD TO SAY

12 OUR 508 WEB SITES STILL DRIVE 20 TO 25 PERCENT OF ALL

13 TRAFFIC TO THE ITI SITES.

14 AND WE LIKE TO THINK WE ARE A SIGNIFICANT ASSOCIATION

15 THAT WE HAVE AN ARRAY OF ISSUES THAT WE ADDRESS.

16 I WAS SCRAMBLING THIS MORNING TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC

17 STIMULUS AND GETTING BRIEFING PAPERS PREPARED ON

18 THAT.

19 BUT WE SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO CREATE A

20 TOOL THAT WOULD FACILITATE THE GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY

21 TO FIND OUT WHAT'S IN THE MARKET SO THAT THE AGENCIES

22 CAN ADVANCE THEIR MISSION, THEIR REQUIREMENTS, AND

23 MEET THEIR OBLIGATIONS RELATIVE TO THE SECTION 508.

24 EXCUSE ME?

25 OH, I'M SORRY.


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1 THAT IT'S NOT A PERFECT TOOL, NOT EVERYBODY LIKES IT.

2 WE'VE HAD SOME INDIVIDUALS, SOME AGENCIES THAT TEND

3 TO REWRITE IT OR TELL US HOW TO REWRITE IT.

4 WE HAVE TRIED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO SUGGESTIONS.

5 WE HAVE TRIED TO BE OPEN AND WE CONSIDER IT AGAIN A

6 DYNAMIC TOOL THAT WILL CHANGE AS IT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

7 THERE IS AN E-MAIL ADDRESS, ITIC, UNDERSCORE, 508 --

8 EXCUSE ME, ITI, UNDERSCORE 508 AT IT -- IF YOU HAVE

9 SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE OTHER

10 THAN TALKING TO ME DIRECTLY, I WOULD PREFER IF YOU

11 COULD SEND IT TO THAT E-MAIL ADDRESS AND I CAN

12 DISTRIBUTE IT TO MY EXPERTS IN THE COMPANIES.

13 BUT WE BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO ADDRESS THIS

14 ISSUE TO GET OUT INFORMATION AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY

15 WHAT WE DO.

16 WE PROVIDE INFORMATION AND THE TOOLS THAT CONVEY

17 INFORMATION.

18 WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN CONFERENCES.

19 AS I MENTIONED, COMPANIES ARE PARTICULARLY EXPERT AT

20 IT.

21 WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS ON THE

22 HORIZON.

23 ONE IS INTEROPERABILITY BETWEEN ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY

24 AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

25 WE ANTICIPATE THAT IN TIME AS OUR PRODUCT CYCLES


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1 MATURE, AS WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE THE 508 REQUIREMENTS

2 AND BUILD AND EXPAND THEM IN OUR PRODUCTS AND IN OUR

3 SERVICES THAT ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS THAT WE NEED

4 TO ADDRESS GOVERNMENT, BOTH GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY,

5 IS TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT AND AT CAN

6 COMMUNICATE SEAMLESSLY AND TRANSPARENTLY.

7 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE EMBRACED

8 AT SOLUTIONS AND THEY WORK EXTREMELY WELL FOR THEM

9 AND THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED FRANKLY IN FINDING SOME

10 OTHER WAY TO ADDRESS A PARTICULAR NEED OR TO FIND A

11 BRIDGE OVER A PARTICULAR DISABILITY.

12 WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE AT COMMUNITY AND

13 GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO SOLVE THOSE SOLUTIONS.

14 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASY, BUT I CONSIDER PROBABLY

15 ONE OF MOST IMPORTANT PROJECTS WE HAVE ON THE

16 HORIZON.

17 THE SECOND IS TO TAKE THIS PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE

18 ALREADY DEVELOPED WITH GOVERNMENT AND THE ADVOCACY

19 COMMUNITY AND EXPAND THAT WORLDWIDE.

20 ITI IS THE AMERICAN REPRESENTATIVE OF THE

21 INFORMATION.

22 I ALWAYS GET THIS WRONG.

23 I KNOW THE ACRONYMS BUT NOT THE NAMES.

24 THE INTERNATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE CONGRESS.

25 IT'S A WORLDWIDE ORGANIZATION SIMILAR TO ITI THAT HAS


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1 SIMILAR GOALS AND ISSUES AND WE ANTICIPATE PUTTING

2 508 OR SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR ON THE TABLE AND ASKING

3 THE INTERNATIONAL INDUSTRY ASSOCIATIONS TO START

4 MARKETING THESE IDEAS WITH THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT.

5 ULTIMATELY WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD ONE PRODUCT AND

6 SELL IT WORLDWIDE.

7 WE'RE A WORLDWIDE COMPANY WITH WORLD WILD MARKETS.

8 THERE IS NO REASON WHY ACCESSIBILITY SHOULD BE ANY

9 DIFFERENT.

10 AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR DISTINCT GOALS.

11 THANK YOU.

12 (APPLAUSE)

13 >> I'D LIKE TO TURN OVER TO MIKE TAKEMURA

14 FROM THE COMPAQ COMPUTER CORPORATION.

15 MIKE.

16 .

17 GOOD MORNING.

18 AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO MULTITASK HERE AND GET MY

19 PRESENTATION TO OPEN UP, WHICH DOESN'T SEEM TO WANT

20 TO OPEN UP, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO IT ANYWAY.

21 ACTUALLY HAD PULLED TOGETHER A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT

22 I THOUGHT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL HIGHLIGHTING THE

23 ACCESSIBILITY BY ACCESSIBLE WEB SITE AND THEN

24 VOLUNTARY PRODUCT TEMPLATE THAT CRAIG HAD MENTIONED,

25 BUT IN THE CASE THAT WE CAN'T GET THAT OPEN, WE'LL GO


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1 AHEAD AND TALK WITHOUT THAT.

2 COMPAQ IS VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE AND WE THANK YOU

3 FOR SUCH A LARGE AUDIENCE.

4 IT CERTAINLY SPEAKS TO THE INTEREST IN SECTION 508

5 AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE THIS MUCH INTEREST IN IT

6 AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT EVERY EVENT THAT I'VE

7 ATTENDED AND SPOKEEN AT RELATIVE TO WHAT COMPAQ HAS

8 BEEN DOING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY

9 WELL ATTENDED.

10 I DON'T THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF COMPAQ, BUT CERTAINLY

11 BECAUSE OF THE TOPIC.

12 BUT I THINK -- AND I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT

13 ANYTHING ABOUT MERGERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TODAY.

14 (LAUGHTER) BUT WE HAVE BEEN VERY EXCITED

15 ABOUT PARTICIPATING IN PARTICULARLY WITH INDUSTRY

16 ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ITI AND ITAN AND ALSO WITH THE

17 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WITH OUR CUSTOMERS AND WITH

18 ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY VENDORS IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO

19 MAKE OUR PRODUCTS MORE ACCESSIBLE AND TO TRY TO HELP

20 DRIVE THE INDUSTRY.

21 THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN

22 VERY LUKEWARM AT BEST I THINK BY INDUSTRY TO ADDRESS

23 THIS HISTORICALLY, VERY SEGMENTED AND HAVEN'T BEEN

24 HOLISTIC IN GENERAL.

25 BUT WE HAVE TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH AT COMPAQ ARE A


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1 COUPLE OF THINGS AND THAT IS BASED ON OUR HERITAGE,

2 FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT AWARE COMPAQ ACQUIRED

3 DIGITAL EQUIPMENT A FEW YEARS AGO.

4 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, BUT

5 SPECIFIC TO SECTION 508 WHERE WE'VE ADDRESSED A LOT

6 OF OUR EFFORTS IS TO TRY TO FOCUSING ON WHAT WE CALL

7 ACCESS ANYTIME ANYWHERE TO ANYONE.

8 AND OUR BELIEF IS THAT TODAY MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE

9 USING TECHNOLOGY LESS FOR COMPUTING BUT MORE FOR

10 ACCESS.

11 WE'RE USING IT FOR ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND WE'RE

12 USING IT FOR ACCESS TO ENTERTAINMENT.

13 IT'S NOT ABOUT COMPUTING ANYMORE.

14 WE DON'T USE COMPUTERS IN MANY CASES TO COMPUTE.

15 THEY'RE USED TO ACCESS THIS INFORMATION.

16 AND THE WAY THAT THE TECHNOLOGY'S BEEN DESIGNED

17 HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN DESIGNED SO THAT THERE HAVE

18 BEEN THESE BARRIERS OR CURBS TO THAT INFORMATION.

19 AND WE BELIEVE LOOKING AT IT THERE NEED TO BE THE

20 RAMPS AND CURB CUTS TO THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY AND

21 THIS INFORMATION AND ENJOYMENT THAT ALLOW EQUAL

22 ACCESS TO ALL INDIVIDUALS.

23 TO DO THAT WE'VE DONE SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS.

24 WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR PRODUCTS AND AS KEN MENTIONED

25 EARLIER IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO DEVELOP PRODUCTS


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1 THAT PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY IN GENERAL BY THEIR

2 NATURE.

3 WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SEPARATE DEVICES AND NEITHER DO

4 USERS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WANT SPECIFIC DEVICES

5 THAT SEPARATE THEM.

6 THEY WANT TO COME UP TO ANY PC, ANY DEVICE AND BE

7 ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR INFORMATION, ACCESS THEIR

8 ENTERTAINMENT.

9 SO WHAT YOU FIND IS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF

10 DESIGNING OUR PRODUCTS SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO ACHIEVE

11 THAT.

12 VERY SIMPLE EXAMPLE THAT YOU MIGHT SEE, MANY OF YOU

13 HAVE A NOTEBOOK COMPUTER.

14 HISTORICALLY A LOT OF THE COMPUTERS HAD TWO LATCHES

15 TO OPEN UP THE DISPLAY.

16 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SECTION FEEF 08 PUT IN WAS

17 SINGLE HAND OPENING.

18 THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF AGAIN, A DESIGN THAT NOT ONLY

19 IMPROVES THE ACCESSIBILITY WITH THE PERSON WITH A

20 DISABILITY, MAYBE A PERSON WHO HAS LIMITED MOBILITY,

21 BUT IMPROVES ACCESS FOR ALL OF US.

22 AND I THINK THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING.

23 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A WHEELCHAIR SYMBOL OR AN

24 ACCESSIBILITY SYMBOL ON ANY ONE OF OUR PRODUCTS

25 BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE THESE GENERALLY AVAILABLE.


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1 BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME BARRIERS THAT OCCUR.

2 SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS USE THE VOLUNTARY PRODUCT

3 TEMPLATE THAT KEN TALKED ABOUT AND WE'VE EMBRACED

4 THAT AND HAVE ACTUALLY DOCUMENTED ALL OF OUR PRODUCTS

5 ON OUR WEB SITE AND YOU CAN GO UP TO WWW.COM

6 PACK.COM/ACCESSIBILITY AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY FIND BY

7 PRODUCT IN SEARCH AND FIND EXACTLY THE LEVEL OF

8 ACCESSIBILITY OF THOSE PRODUCTS.

9 I WANT TO MENTION, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ALL OF OUR

10 PRODUCTS ARE 100 PERCENT ACCESSIBLE.

11 ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND IS THERE'S A SPECTRUM OF

12 ACCESSIBILITY AND FOR WHAT MIGHT BE ACCESSIBLE FOR

13 ONE USER MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE FOR ANOTHER OF THE

14 IT'S AN EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS.

15 COMPAQ I THINK SPEAKS FOR MOST OF INDUSTRY IN THAT WE

16 DON'T WANT TO HIT THE BAR OF SECTION 508, WE DON'T

17 WANT THAT TO BE THE CEILING OF WHAT WE DO TO DRIVE

18 ACCESSIBILITY IN OUR PRODUCTS.

19 WE GO TO GO FAR BEYOND THAT.

20 THAT'S THE MINIMUM BAR THAT WE WANT TO GET TO.

21 WE WANT TO FIND NEW AND CREATIVE WAYS TO MAKE

22 ACCESSIBLE.

23 TO HELP OUR FEDERAL CUSTOMERS WE HAVE DOCUMENTED ALL

24 OF OUR PRODUCTS AND THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON

25 THE WEB SITE AND THAT HELPS OUR FRIENDS AND OUR


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1 CUSTOMERS IN GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE VERY WISE

2 PURCHASING DECISIONS, IT ALLOWS THEM TO DOCUMENT

3 WHICH IS INCUMBENT UPON THEM WHAT THE ACCESSIBILITY

4 FEATURES ARE, AND TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT.

5 AND IT'S GOOD BUSINESS FOR COMPAQ.

6 I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY WON SEVERAL

7 AWARDS FOR PRODUCTS BASED UPON HAVING VERY THOROUGH

8 AND COMPLETE DOCUMENTATION OF OUR PRODUCTS.

9 WE DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE THAT KIND OF RESPONSE BUT WE

10 ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.

11 WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE THAT ONE STEP FURTHER NOW AND

12 THAT IS THE EMBRACE THE BY ACCESSIBLE SITE AND THE

13 TEMPLATE -- OR THE SITE THAT'S BEEN DESIGNED BY

14 SECTION 508 TEAM AND FOLKS AT TERRY WEAVER'S OFFICE.

15 AND WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THAT ACTUALLY HAS BEEN ABLE

16 TO POPULATE.

17 IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, YOU CAN GO TO

18 WWW.SECTION 508.GOV.

19 IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, WE HAVE POPULATED ALL OF OUR

20 PRODUCT INFORMATION AS WELL /* THERE AS WELL.

21 THAT NOT ONLY HAS COMPAQ INFORMATION, BUT WILL HAVE

22 INFORMATION FROM ALL OUR COMPETITORS, IN FACT ALL THE

23 EIT COMPANIES, IT'S KIND OF A ONE-STOP SHOP FOR

24 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO THERE AND FIND OUT PRODUCTS AND

25 SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT ADDRESS SECTION 508


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1 AND ACCESSIBILITY.

2 AND WE THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING THAT WE APPLAUD

3 THE EFFORTS THERE, AND IT HELPS COMPAQ BECAUSE WE

4 KNOW THAT FEDERAL CUSTOMERS DON'T WANT TO GO TO

5 COMPAQ SITE AND MICROSOFT SITE AND ADOBE SITE AND

6 EVERYONE ELSE'S SITE.

7 IT'S GOOD IF THEY CAN JUST GO TO ONE SINGLE SITE AND

8 HAVE THAT INFORMATION AGGREGATED THERE AND ALLOW THEM

9 TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

10 BUT AS WE LOOK FORWARD, WE THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER

11 OPPORTUNITIES.

12 A LOT OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE HAVE INTERNALLY AT

13 COMPAQ ARE NOT ONLY LOOKING AT OUR PRODUCTS BUT

14 THINGS LIKE OUR DOCUMENTATION, OUR OWN INTERNAL

15 INFORMATION, WORKING A LOT WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT

16 ADVOCACY GROUPS AND DOING HUMAN FACTORS TESTING AND

17 STUDIES SO OUR FUTURE PRODUCTS ACTUALLY INCLUDE THAT

18 KIND OF TESTING.

19 IT HAS IN THE PAST BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT IT

20 COVERS ALL OF OUR PRODUCTS.

21 AND A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS WHEN WE DESIGN

22 DIFFERENT THINGS FOR EXAMPLE LIKE THE POCKET PC OR

23 WE'RE LOOKING AT NEXT GENERATION TABLET PC PRODUCTS

24 THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON, THOSE ARE GOOD OPPORTUNITIES

25 TO INCLUDE PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES IN THE


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1 DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PRODUCTS AND TRY TO DETERMINE

2 HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WHICH HAD INCLUDE

3 THEM INTO ACCESSING INFORMATION USING THOSE TYPES OF

4 DEVICES GOING FORWARD.

5 I THINK IN CLOSING THE THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS

6 THAT WE LOOK AT IT FROM COMPAQ THAT AGAIN IT'S A VERY

7 MUCH AN EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS.

8 IT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

9 WE LOOK AT IT WITH A LOT OF EXCITE THAT THERE ARE

10 OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

11 WE DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SUCCEED IN ALL

12 AREAS.

13 WE CERTAINLY HAVE IN FACT FOUND THAT THERE ARE SOME

14 FAILURES ALONG THE WAY AND SOME THINGS THAT WE

15 HAVEN'T DESIGND THAT ARE COMPLETELY ACCESSIBLE.

16 BUT WE'RE USING THOSE AS OPPORTUNITIES TO CHANGE NEXT

17 GENERATION, AND I THINK AS AN IT INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE,

18 THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE EXCITE IS IS THAT WE GO AND

19 TRY TO FIND THE SUCCESSES WE CAN BUILD UPON THEM.

20 BUT CERTAINLY THE FAILURES OR THE THINGS WE DON'T

21 ACHIEVE ARE BENEFICIAL TO US AS WELL AS BECAUSE THAT

22 TYPE OF FEEDBACK HELPS US TO IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY

23 AGAIN AND WE'LL PROVIDE THAT ACCESS ANYTIME,

24 ANYWHERE, TO ANYONE.

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1 I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END.

2 CRAIG, BACK TO YOU

3 (APPLAUSE)

4 I'D NOW LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO SHEILA NEWMAN.

5 SHE'LL A..

6 THANK YOU.

7 AS I LOOK DOWN THE TABLE, I THINK I'M SERVING THREE

8 PURPOSES.

9 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10 AS I LOOK DOWN THE TABLE, I THINK I'M SERVING THREE

11 PURPOSES ON THIS PANEL.

12 I'M ADAING A LITTLE DIVERSITY.

13 >> WE CAN'T HEAR.

14 >> PARDON?

15 CAN'T HEAR?

16 >> YOU'RE MIKE'S NOT ON.

17 >> I'LL TRY TO SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER.

18 IS THAT BETTER?

19 I JUST SAID I'M ADDING A LITTLE DIVERSITY TO THIS

20 PANEL.

21 I'M ALSO REPRESENTING A LITTLE SMALL COMPANY IN

22 COMPARISON TO MY COLLEAGUES OUT HERE.

23 MY COMPANY HAS BEEN 100 EMPLOYEES VERSUS THOUSANDS

24 AND ALSO I'M HERE MORE TO TALK TO THE FEDERAL

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1 I'M TOLD ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF THE AUDIENCE ARE FEDERAL

2 EMPLOYEES.

3 I SEE HOW MANY OF YOU WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT?

4 OKAY.

5 I'M HERE TO TELL YOU WHAT CESSI IS HELPING THE

6 GOVERNMENT TO ACCESS THEIR LEVEL OF ACCESSIBILITY IN

7 PLANNING FOR FUTURE COMPLIANCE.

8 CESSI IS A CERTIFIED SMALL BUSINESS.

9 IT WAS FOUNDED IN 1992 BY FRED CHERRY AND I CAN'T

10 TALK ABOUT CESSI WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT FRED.

11 FRED WHRXS HE FOUNDED THE COMPANY IN 1992 HAD ALREADY

12 HAD A CAREER.

13 HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN AIR FORCE

14 FIGHTER PILOTLESS.

15 HE SERVED IN KOREA, LATER WENT TO VIETNAM, WAS SHOT

16 DOWN, SPENT SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AS A PRISON OF WAR

17 IN NORTH VET NAM.

18 FRED, WOULD YOU MIND STANDING UP?

19 (APPLAUSE)

20 >> THIS PAST MONTH WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT

21 AMERICAN HEROES AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING

22 FOR ONE EVERY DAY.

23 SO IT'S NICE TO WORK FOR A COMPANY WHERE YOU KNOW THE

24 TOP AND THEY'RE DEDICATED TO YOUR SAME GOALS.

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1 AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

2 IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS WE'VE SEEN THOSE TWO SECTORS

3 MERGE MORE AS OUR 508 EXPERTS GO OUT AND TEACH OUR IT

4 EXPERTS WEB ACCESSIBILITY AND SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT

5 ACCESSIBILITY, PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO HELP THEM MEET

6 THE STATE YOUR NAMES MEET THE STANDARDS.

7 THE NEXT SLIDES I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE

8 CHALLENGES [] WE'RE A GOVERNMENT CONTRACTOR SO WE

9 HAVE CONTRACTS.

10 A LOT OF MY CLIENTS ARE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TODAY.

11 WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, HELPING

12 THEM TO BECOME MORE COMPLIANT WITH SECTION 508.

13 WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ACCESS BOARD, PROVIDING

14 TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, AND GSA,.

15 OUR COMPANY DID THE WWW.SECTION 5 ON 8.GOV REDESIGN

16 [] WE ALSO WORK WITH STATE DEPARTMENT, HUD,

17 TRANSPORTATION, AGRICULTURE, LABOR, A LOT OF THE

18 COMPANIES.

19 SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE FOUR CHALLENGES, THE

20 UNFUNDED MANDATE, THE AWARENESS AND EDUCATION, THE

21 PRODUCT AND AVAILABILITY, AND KNOWING WHERE TO START,

22 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE FEDERAL

23 GOVERNMENT DO.

24 SO ON THE UNFUNDED MANDATE, WHERE DO YOU START IF YOU

25 DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY?


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1 YOU HAVE TO ALLOCATE YOUR LIMITED RESOURCES WHERE YOU

2 CAN GET THE MOST IMPACT.

3 SO WE LOOK AT WHEN WE START WITH AN AGENCY, WE LOOK

4 AT THEIR ORGANIZATIONAL ASSESSMENT, TECHNOLOGY

5 ASSESSMENTS, STRATEGIC PLAN, AND BUILDING YOUR TEAM.

6 IN THE ORGANIZATIONAL ASSESSMENT, WHAT'S THE EXTENT

7 OF KNOWLEDGE AND AWARENESS ABOUT 508 ORGANIZATION?

8 AT ALL LEVELS, WHERE IS IT NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE

9 COMPLIANCE?

10 WHAT PROCESSES DO YOU ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE?

11 ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE FOLKS IN THE 504 ARENA WHO

12 KNOW HOW TO ACCEPT COMPLAINTS?

13 MARKET RESEARCH, DOCUMENTATION, UNDUE BURDEN?

14 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THOSE ISSUES?

15 WHAT PROCESSES MAY NEED TO BE MODIFYD? YOUR SYSTEM

16 DEVELOPMENT LIFE CYCLE, ACQUISITION PROCESS, BUDGET

17 PROCESS, REVIEWS AND APPROVALS.

18 IN YOUR TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT, DO YOU HAVE A METHOD

19 TO DETERMINE IF YOUR WEB SITES ARE ACCESSIBLE AND

20 YOUR SYSTEMS ARE ACCESSIBLE AND ARE YOU LOOKING AT

21 THE NEW ENIT PROCUREMENTS THAT ARE MRANLED.

22 IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, IF YOU'RE DOING A SHORT-TERM

23 ACTION PLAN, SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS AND THEN LOOK BEYOND

24 THAT TO A LONG-TERM STRATEGY.

25 WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING YOUR TEAM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU


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1 NEED TO THINK ABOUT, YESTERDAY BONNIE SAINT JOHN

2 TALKED ABOUT IF YOU -- GSA USES THE ROAD TO

3 ACCESSIBILITY AS THEIR THEME AND IF YOU BUILD THAT

4 ROAD, PEOPLE WILL COME, THE MORE ACCESSIBLE THE

5 ENVIRONMENT BECOMES THE MORE YOUR COLLEAGUES WILL BE

6 DISABLED BECAUSE THEY CAN THEN WORK.

7 SO YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE GROUPS THAT YOU

8 WANT TO HAVE INVOLVED, YOUR SECTION 508 COORDINATOR,

9 HR, PROCUREMENT, ACSIGSZ SPECIALIST, BUDGET PLANNING

10 SPECIALIST, TECHNICAL STAFF, WEB MASTERS, PROGRAM

11 MANAGERS, TO FIND THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND

12 MANY OF THE AGENCY VS DONE THIS, AND THEY'VE DONE A

13 GOOD JOB OF THIS.

14 BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T CONTRIBUTED, THEN TRY TO BECOME A

15 PART OF THAT TEAM THAT HELPS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

16 REACH FULL COMPLIANCE.

17 OKAY.

18 AND AWARENESS AND EDUCATION.

19 508 DOES NOT JUST A PROCUREMENT ISSUE.

20 DO YOU HAVE A ROLE?

21 ASK YOURSELF, WHAT'S YOUR ROLE IN HELPING REACH

22 COMPLIANCE F. YOU'RE MANAGEMENT, UNDERSTAND THE RISK

23 AND IMPORTANCE OF 508 COMPLIANCE.

24 THE TECHNICAL STAFF AND PROGRAM MANAGERS MAKE

25 DECISIONS EVERY DAY THAT AFFECT ACCESSIBILITY


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1 THROUGHOUT THE LIFE STIEK CYCLE OF TECHNOLOGY.

2 IF YOU'RE HUMAN RESOURCES AND TRAINING, YOU MAY WANT

3 TO BE ASKING HOW YOU FIT INTO THE 508 TRAINING.

4 IF YOU'RE ALREADY DOING YOUR TRAINING FOR YOUR

5 MANAGERS ON SECTION 501, 504, THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO

6 ADD 508 TRAINING.

7 IT'S NOT JUST A HEADQUARTER ISSUE.

8 THERE ARE SOME AGENCIES, VAN AND NASA ARE EXAMPLES,

9 THEY HAVE A VERY, VERY SMALL STAFF IN WASHINGTON AND

10 THE MAJORITY OF THEIR STAFF IS LOCATED IN REGIONAL

11 OFFICES.

12 THEY HAVEN'T HEARD AS MUCH ABOUT 5 ON 8 IN THE HINTER

13 LANDS AS WE HAVE HERE IN WASHINGTON.

14 SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF YOUR LOCATIONS

15 ESPECIALLY THE AGENCIES WITH THE DECENTRALIZED

16 FUNCTIONS [].

17 BASICALLY THE BOTTOM LINE IS IMPLEMENTING

18 508 REQUIRES A CHANGE IN ORGANIZATIONAL PROCESS AND

19 STRUCTURE.

20 ANOTHER CHALLENGE IS PRODUCT AVAILABILITY SDPRXS MIKE

21 TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BIACCESSIBLE WEB SITE

22 AND THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO START.

23 YOU DO HAVE TO DO MARKET RESEARCH UNDER SECTION 508.

24 IT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE FAR AND IT HAS TO BE

25 DOCUMENTED IN YOUR ACQUISITION FILES.


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1 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO IS HOLD THE VENDORS

2 ACCOUNTABLE.

3 SOME OF THE FOLKS UP HERE ON THIS PANEL ARE IN THE

4 FOREFRONT OF MAKING THEIR PRODUCTS ACCESSIBLE.

5 LIKE MIKE SAID, 100 PERCENT ACCESSIBILITY IS PROBABLY

6 NOT REALISTIC, BUT WHAT IS THE MOST ACCESSIBLE

7 PRODUCT FOR WHAT YOU NEED IS WHAT YOU NEED TO LOOK

8 AT.

9 YOU NEED TO BE WORKING WITH THE VENDORS AND PEOPLE

10 WHO HAVE DISABILITIES IN YOUR OFFICE.

11 THE -- REX IS GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE

12 ACCESSIBILITY FORUM, BUT THERE ARE PLACES WHERE WE'RE

13 BRINGING TOGETHER VENDORS AND GOVERNMENT PEOPLE AND

14 YOU CAN BE PART OF THAT.

15 AND THEN JUST TECHNOLOGY IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING, SO

16 THIS IS NOT GOING TO -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE

17 PROBLEM AND IT'S GOING TO END; IT'S CONSTANTLY

18 CHANGING, WE'RE CONSTANTLY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT

19 SECTION 508.

20 SO WHERE TO START?

21 YOU WOULD WANT TO GARTH GATHER KNOWLEDGE EXPERTISE.

22 MANY OF THE AGENCIES HAVE STARTED AND ARE DOING A

23 GOOD JOB.

24 CONDUCT YOUR ASSESSMENT, PREPARE YOUR PLAN, JUST

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1 IT'S GOING TO BE AN EVOLUTION, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE

2 TO START SOMEWHERE.

3 OKAY.

4 SO MY MARKETING PEOPLE PUT THIS ONE IN HERE.

5 CONTACT CESSI.

6 YOU CAN REACH US AT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS SNEWMAN AT

7 CESSI.NET.

8 CESSI HAS BEEN WORKING IN THE ACCESSIBILITY FIELD

9 LONG BEFORE 508 HIT THE MEDIA.

10 WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO WORK WITH SOME AGENCIES THAT

11 WERE IN THE FOREFRONT OF -- WE'VE WORKED WITH THE

12 NATIONAL NASHL ON REHAB AND RESEARCH FOR YEARS.

13 THEY'VE REQUIRED THEIR WEB SITES TO BE ACCESSIBLE AND

14 PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE FORMATS FOR THEIR MEETINGS FOR A

15 LONG TIME.

16 ODEPWHICH IS THE OFFICE OFS DISABILITY AND EMPLOYMENT

17 POLICY.

18 IT USED TO BE THE PRESIDENT'S COMMITTEE ON PEOPLE

19 WITH DISABILITIES.

20 HAD A MODEL SITE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

21 AND WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME AGENCIES NOW THAT

22 PROBABLY WILL COME BACK HERE NEXT YEAR AND PRESENT IN

23 THE BEST PRACTICES WORKSHOP DEPARTMENT OF STATE HAS

24 -- HAS A CENTER THAT'S DEDICATED TO 508

25 IMPLEMENTATION, AND THE SHAR MAIN I'VEER SON WHO IS


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1 HERE IN THE AUDIENCE IS THE FOUNDER AND THE DIRECTOR

2 OF THE IMPACT CENTER AND CESSI SUPPORTS THE IMPACT

3 CENTER WITH STAFF THERE.

4 THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A DECENTRALIZED OFFICE.

5 WE GO HOME FROM WORK AT NIGHT AND COME BACK IN THE

6 MORNING AND SHAR MAIN AND PAUL SHAVER, HAS A 508

7 MAILBOX WHERE THEY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME IN

8 OVER NIGHT FROM POSTED EMBASSYIES THROUGHOUT THE

9 WORLD ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT SECTION 508.

10 SO EVEN IN SOME OF THE UNDERDEVELOP COMPANIES, WE'RE

11 IMPLEMENTING SECTION 508.

12 IF YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT AT EXHIBITS AT THE BOTTOM OF

13 THE ESCALATORS AT THE LEFT IS A ROOM OF FEDERAL

14 EXHIBITS WHICH IS SPONSORED BY DEPARTMENT DPT

15 DEFENSE.

16 AND THEIR EXHIBITS FROM AGRICULTURE, DEFENSE,

17 INTERIOR, GSA, VA, BUT A LOT OF THE -- DID I MISS

18 ANYTHING?

19 IRS.

20 A LOT OF FEDERAL AGENCIES REPRESENTED OVER THERE

21 TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN 504 AND 5 ON 8.

22 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

23 >> THANK YOU, SHEILA.

24 NOW REX, I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE OVER.

25 REX IS ON THE WORKING GROUP, FOR ITA, THE INTER.


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1 >> THANK YOU, CRAIG.

2 I'M DELIGHTED TO SPEAK TO SUCH A DISTINGUISHED AND

3 INTERESTING AUDIENCE.

4 MY NAME IS REX LINLT.

5 I'M CALLED MANY THINGS.

6 AMONG WHICH IS CHAIRMAN OF SECTION 508 WORKING GROUP

7 FOR ITAA.

8 AND EARLIER WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SKELTONS OF

9 OLDER IT COMPANIES.

10 I WORKED FOR DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION FOR 21

11 YEARS.

12 I WAS THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE YEAR 2000 PROGRAM

13 THAT DIGITAL HAD AND THEN AFTER THE ACQUISITION BY

14 COMPAQ I WORKED THERE FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS AND

15 HAVE RECENTLY LEFT THERE TO FORM MY OWN COMPANY, A

16 COMPANY OF ONE AT THIS POINT.

17 I'M PLEASED TODAY TO SPEAK TO YOU ON THE INDUSTRY'S

18 VIEW OF SECTION 508.

19 BUT LET ME PREFACE MY REMARKS.

20 I WEAR A NUMBER OF HATS IN THE ACCESSIBILITY DOMAIN.

21 I'M A CONSULTANT IN INDUSTRY HELPING THEM MOVED

22 FORWARD ACCESSIBLE PRODUCTS.

23 I'M A CONSULTANT FOR AGENCIES HELPING THEM FOR

24 PROGRAMS FOR MOVING TOWARD COMPLIANCE WITH 508, AND I

25 LEAD THIS CAALIGZ WITH COMPANIES COPING WITH THE


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1 EMERGING REGULATIONS AND CONCERNING IT ACCESSIBILITY

2 AND IT'S WITH THAT HEAD THAT I'M SPEAKING WITH YOU

3 TODAY.

4 I GUESS MY REMARKS ARE INTENDED TO GIVE YOU AN

5 AWARENESS OF THE VIEWPOINT OF THE IT INDUSTRY

6 COLLECTIVELY.

7 IT'S NOT THE POSITION OF ANY ONE COMPANY BUT IT'S

8 GENERALLY WHERE INDUSTRY'S COMING FROM.

9 AND I OFFER THESE REMARKS WITH THE INTENT THAT THEY

10 WILL PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN INDUSTRY,

11 GOVERNMENT, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

12 AND I HOPE THAT UNDERSTANDING THESE VIEWS WILL LEAD

13 TO PROGRESS TOWARD ACCESSIBILITY ON OF INFORMATION

14 TECHNOLOGY TO HELP MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE QUALITY

15 OF LIFE.

16 OF SO MANY OF US.

17 WE DID A LITTLE SURVEY A SECOND AGO AND WE SAW THAT

18 ABOUT 40 PERCENT WERE FROM GOVERNMENT.

19 HOW MANY ARE HERE FROM INDUSTRY?

20 LOOKS LIKE MAYBE 10, 15 PERCENT.

21 HOW MANY ARE HERE FROM ADVOCACY GROUPS OR END ENDERS?

22 VERY FEW.

23 OKAY.

24 BUT LET ME TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO INTRODUCE ITAA.

25 TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA, AND THIS YEAR IT'S


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1 CELEBRATING ITS 40TH BIRTHED.

2 THIS IS A TRADE ASSOCIATION OF MORE THAN 5 ON MEMBERS

3 FROM IT ASK TELECOM INDUSTRIES.

4 IT'S THE BIG GUYS AND SMALL GUISE.

5 ITAA LISTS AMONG ITS MEASURES THE LARGEST IT MEMBERS

6 IN THE WORLD IBM, MOTOROLA, COMPAQ, TO NAME A FEW.

7 IT'S ALSO AN INCUE BAITOR OF THE SMALLEST.

8 [].

9 THEY GET TO TEND TO THE ISSUES THEY NEED TO.

10 EVEN A SOLE PROPRIETIOR LINKING UP WITH OTHERS IN THE

11 BUSINESS.

12 INCLUDING REX LINK, CONSULTANT.

13 THERE ARE SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE COMPANIES, IT SERVICE

14 COMPANIES AND APPLICATIONS SERVICE PROVIDERS, DIGITAL

15 CONTENT COMPANIES AND WILL TELECOM COMPANIES.

16 AND THERE ARE CONSULTING COMPANY FROM THE LARGEST TO

17 THE SMALLEST ALL WITH VESTED INTEREST IN THE IT

18 INDUSTRY.

19 THERE ARE MANY COMMON POLICY ISSUES IDENTIFIED BY

20 THESE COMPANIES AS A GROUP.

21 WHERE THERE IS COMPUTER SECURITY, IMMIGRATION VISAS

22 FOR PEOPLE, FOR IT SPECIALISTS OR THE ONE WHICH WE'RE

23 FOCUSED ON TODAY WHICH IS GOVERNMENT IT PROCUREMENT

24 ISSUES AND REGULATIONS.

25 THE IT INDUSTRY HAS RISEN TO THE CHALLENGE POSED BY


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1 SECTION 508.

2 IT'S WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE GOVERNMENT ON 508.

3 IN GENERAL IT'S BEEN POINTED OUT A NUMBER OF THE

4 ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE UNDERTAEB.

5 THE IT WAS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT DRAFTED THE

6 PROPOSALS FOR STANDARDS FOR 508.

7 IT COMMENTED HEAVILY ON THE ACCESS BOARD PROPOSED

8 RULES.

9 WE COLLABORATED AND COMMENTED EXTENSIVELY ON THE

10 PROPOSED FEDERAL FRL FRL REGULATION.

11 INDUSTRY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH GSA HAS BEEN THROUGH

12 THE DISCUSSION OF THE BIACCESSIBLE AND THE VOLUNTARY

13 TEMPLATE AND INDUSTRY IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH GEORGIA

14 TECH ON A GRANT TO DEVELOP TRAINING ON ACCESSIBLE

15 EDUCATION.

16 EDUCATION HAS COLLABORATED AROUND GSAN AROUND THE

17 FORMAT FOR REPRESENTING THE ACCESSIBILITY FEATURES OF

18 THEIR PRODUCT AND I SAID I WOULD ALSO, IT WAS SAID

19 THAT I WOULD ALSO SPEND A LITTLE BILT OF TIME TALKING

20 ABOUT THE ACCESSIBILITY FORUM.

21 GSA HAS FUNDED OR IS FACILITATING THE FORMULATION OF

22 A PROJECT TO UNDERTAKE SOME STANDARDS MAKING IN THE

23 AREA OF ACCESSIBILITY.

24 INDUSTRY HAS TRIED TO PUSH THAT ACTIVITY TO FOCUS ON

25 THE INTERFACE BETWEEN MAIN LINE TECHNOLOGY ON LIKE


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1 YOUR OPERATING SYSTEMS AND YOUR WORD PROCESSORS AND

2 THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, YOUR

3 SCREEN READERS AND YOUR VOICE RECOGNITION SOFTWARE,

4 ET CETERA AND TO TRY TO FIND AN INTERFACE BETWEEN

5 THOSE TWO TECHNOLOGY AREAS SO THAT WHEN THERE'S A

6 CHANGE IN AN OPERATING SYSTEM IT DOESN'T TOTALLY BLOW

7 OUT OF THE WATER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY.

8 IF WE CAN GET COOPERATION IN DEFINING AN API BETWEEN

9 THESE TWO CLASSES OF TECHNOLOGY, I THINK IT WOULD BE

10 A VERY GOOD STEP FORWARD.

11 I GUESS ONE OF THE AREAS WHICH WE'VE BEEN SOMEWHAT,

12 WHERE INDUSTRY HAS PUSHED ON THIS PROJECT IS TO TRY

13 AND SUGGEST THAT THE PROCESS OF DEFINING MEASUREMENTS

14 FOR WHETHER 5508 PROVISIONS ARE MET OR NOT MET REALLY

15 IS THE BUSINESS OF THE ACCESS BOARD THAT THE DEFINING

16 OF THE MEASURES NECESSARY TO DETERMINE COMPLIANCE

17 REALLY FALL OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT OUGHT TO BE

18 DONE IN A NONSPECIFIED REGULATORY PROCESS THAT

19 DEFINING STANDARDS OUTSIDE THE REGULATORY PROCESS

20 REALLY IS NOT IN INDUSTRY'S INTEREST AND WE DON'T

21 THINK IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF THE GOVERNMENT OR THE

22 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES EITHER.

23 BUT THE QUESTION OF THE HOUR IS HOW IS IT GOING

24 REGARDING 508.

25 OVERALL, WE'RE PLEASED AND ENCOURAGES BY THE


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1 SUBSTANTIAL EFFORTS OF INDUSTRY'S RESPONSE TO 508.

2 THE LARGER COMPANIES HAVE BELLIED UP TO THE BAR,

3 THEY'VE FOCUSED RESOURCES ON THE ISSUE, HP, IBM,

4 MICROSOFT, ORACLE, AND MANY COMPANIES HAVE

5 ESTABLISHED INTERNAL SECTION 508 PROGRAMS INSIDE

6 THEIR COMPANIES.

7 THEY'VE LOOKED AT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ACCESSIBLE

8 PRODUCTS THAT COMPLY WITH SECTION 508 STANDARDS,

9 THEY'VE GOTTEN INFORMATION ONTO THE WEB SITE SO THAT

10 BUYERS CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT THE ISSUES ARE THAT THEIR

11 PRODUCTS, WHAT THEIR FEATURES ARE OF THEIR PRODUCTS

12 THAT MAKE THINGS ACCESSIBLE.

13 SINCE THE SECTION 508 ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS TOOK

14 EFFECT ON JUNE 21, INDUSTRY HAS ENCOUNTERED

15 SIGNIFICANTLY FEWER PROBLEMS IN THE 508

16 IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS THAN WE EXPECTED.

17 MOST HAVE SHOWN WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH VENDORS AND

18 ISSUES THAT ARISE IN THE CONTEXT OF -- ONE ISSUE THAT

19 THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE -- ONE ISSUE HAD BEEN THE ISSUE

20 OF AGENCIES REQUIRING CERTIFICATION OF SECTION 508

21 COMPLIANCE FROM VENDORS.

22 THE QUESTION IS YOUR PRODUCT 508 COMPLIANT OR NOT HAS

23 BEEN REPLACED BY GENERAL ACCEPTANCE EVER THE

24 VOLUNTARY TEMPLATE OF IT ACCESSIBILITY FEATURES.

25 AT A CONFERENCE THE DAY BEFORE THE TERRORIST ATTACK,


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1 I HEARD TERRY WEAVER SAY, IF I REMEMBER EVALUATING

2 VENDORS AND IF ONE OF THEM SAID OUR PRODUCT IS 508

3 COMPLIANT, I WOULD LOOK DEEPER.

4 IT'S THE AGENCY'S PLACE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT

5 REPRESENTS COMPLIANCE.

6 BUT THINGS AREN'T PERFECT.

7 THERE ARE STILL A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT NEED

8 ATTENTION.

9 LET'S TALK ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDIES.

10 WE THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINT PROCEDURES

11 SHOULD RELY ON THE PROCUREMENT AND TECHNICAL DECISION

12 MAKERS TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES.

13 THE ADMINISTRATIVE NOW IN PLACE ARE SECTION 504

14 DISPUTES SHOULD NOT BE ASSUMED TO BE APPROPRIATE IN

15 THE MORE TECHNICAL SETTING OF 508 AS IT DOES NOT

16 NECESSARILY INVOLVE PEOPLE WHO CAN TAKE ACTION TO

17 RESOLVE THE TECHNICAL BERRIERS OF IT.

18 ANOTHER POINT: IF THE DOJ DEVELOPS A ADMINISTRATIVE

19 REMEDY, IT SHOULD ALLOW AFFECTED VENDORS TO INTERVENE

20 AND TO PARTICIPATE IN THE RESOLUTION OF DISPUTES

21 ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY.

22 INDUSTRY CAN MARSHAL THE RESOURCES TO PROVIDE A REAL

23 REMEDY TO THE ISSUES THAT ARISE.

24 TO THIS END, ITAA IS FORMULATING SOMESES TO PASS ONTO

25 THE DEPARTMENT DPT JUSTICE REGARDING SUCH ISSUES.


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1 AND ON ANOTHER FRONT WE SUGGEST AND WE CALL ON THE

2 ADVOCACY COMMUNITIES TO SUPPORT INCREASED FLEXIBILITY

3 IN THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

4 WE CALL THIS NOTION BEST VALUE.

5 WE THINK THAT SECTION 508 FAR RULES SHOULD BE

6 MODIFIED TO PROVIDE GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENT OFFICIALS

7 WITH MORE SPECIFIC GUIDANCE ABOUT FLEXIBILITY IN

8 THEIR PURCHASING DECISIONS.

9 UNDER SECTION 508, FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE OBLIGATED TO

10 PURCHASE ACCESSIBLE EIT UNLESS AN UNDUE BURDEN WOULD

11 BE IMPOSED MEANING SIGNIFICANT DIFFICULTY OR EXPENSE.

12 NEITHER THE FAR AMENDMENT NOR THE STANDARDS PROVIDE

13 ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE AS TO HOW UNDUE BURDEN STANDARDS

14 SHOULD BE APPLIED AND PRACTICED.

15 FOR EXAMPLE, THE UNDUDE BURDEN EXAMPLE MIGHT BE

16 CLARIFIED TO INCORPORATE THE CONCEPT OF BEST VALUE

17 WHICH WOULD ALLOW AGENCIES TO CONSIDER THE EXTENT TO

18 WHICH COMPLIANCE WOULD REQUIRE THE ACQUISITION OF A

19 PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT MEET THE AGENCY'S NEEDS.

20 FACTORING ACCESSIBILITY IS ONE OF BUT NOT THE PRIMARY

21 PRODUCT METRIC.

22 WE ARE STILL FACING AGENCY'S SPECIFIC CLAUSES

23 CONCERNING 508 COMPLIANCE.

24 WE INITIALLY FELT THAT THERE WOULD BE A STANDARD

25 CLAUSE TO PUT INTO CONTRACTS.


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1 ITAA HAS EXPANDED THIS IDEA.

2 DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE INDUSTRY FEEL THAT DIFFERENT

3 LANGUAGE IS NECESSARY FOR SERVICES, FOR EXAMPLE, AS

4 DISTINGUISHED FROM HARDWARE AS DISTINGUISHED FROM

5 TELECOMMUNICATIONS OR COPIERS AND FAX MACHINES.

6 SO WE ARE COMPILING A LIBRARY OF SUGGESTED CLAUSES

7 THAT WE'LL BE SHARING WITH GSAN IN THE HOPES THAT WE

8 CAN ARRIVE IN AN EASY TO NEGOTIATE LANGUAGE FOR

9 CONTRACTS.

10 WE HOPE THAT THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE SEEN UNDER THE

11 EXCEPTION OF 508 CONTINUES.

12 WE STAND READY TO DO ALL WE CAN TO BRING FRUITION THE

13 PROMISE THAT IT HAS FOR BETTERING THE LIVES OF PEOPLE

14 WITH DISABILITIES.

15 GETTING ACCESSIBILITY INTO THE MARKETPLACE IS THE

16 RIGHT THING TO DO.

17 THANKS FOR YOUR INTEREST.

18 (APPLAUSE)

19 >> THANK YOU, REX.

20 I WOULD LIKE TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO MICROSOFT AND

21 TOM.

22 TOM.

23 .

24 GOOD MORNING.

25 CAN YOU HEAR ME IN THE BACK?


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1 MY NAME IS TOM CELLA, AND I'M WITH A SMALL SOFTWARE

2 COMPANY CALLED MICROSOFT.

3 I'M HERE REPRESENTING OUR ACCESSIBLE TECHNOLOGY

4 GROUP.

5 LARA RUBY WHO WOULD TYPICALLY BE HERE WAS

6 UNFORTUNATELY UNABLE TO ATTEND DUE TO A CONFLICT IN

7 HER SCHEDULE.

8 SO AT THE LAST MINUTE SHE ASKED ME TO FILL IN.

9 SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

10 I SPENT 11 YEARS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE

11 PROCUREMENT FIELD PRIOR TO COMING TO MICROSOFT.

12 SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF SECTION 508 AND

13 ITS EFFECT ON FEDERAL PROCUREMENT PRACTICES.

14 MY GOAL TODAY IS TO GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF

15 MICROSOFT'S POSITION REGARDING ACCESSIBILITY AND

16 SECTION 508. MICROSOFT HAS ESTABLISHED SEVERAL

17 VERTICAL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE COMPANY.

18 ONE OF THOSE VERTICAL BUSINESSES IS MICROSOFTD

19 GOVERNMENT AND WE'RE LOCATED HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

20 THE PRIMARY TASK OF MICROSOFT GOVERNMENT IS TO

21 PROVIDE PRODUCTS, PRODUCTS SUPPORT AND CONSULTING

22 SERVICES TO OUR FEDERAL AS WELL AS STATE AND LOCAL

23 GOVERNMENT CUSTOMERS.

24 REALIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR FEDERAL CUSTOMER AND

25 THE ABILITY FOR US TO KEEP THE FEDERAL CUSTOMER HAPPY


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1 AND TO MEET YOUR NEEDS, WE HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE IN

2 PARTICIPATING IN AND TAKING A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THE

3 DEVELOPMENT OF SECTION 508 ACCESS BOARD STANDARDS.

4 I WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION MICROSOFT'S ACCESSIBILITY

5 MIPGZ STATEMENT.

6 THAT STATE IS TO MAKE MICROSOFT PRODUCTS, PROGRAMS

7 AND SERVICE ININ IN AND RELEVANT TO PEOPLE WITH

8 DISABILITIES AND MAKE ACCESSIBILITY CORE TO

9 MICROSOFT'S CULTURE.

10 JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON MICROSOFT'S

11 COMMITMENT TO ACCESSIBILITY, WE STARTED WITH ONE

12 PERSON 12 YEAR AGOS AGO IN 19QUAETD AND 88, AND NOW

13 WE HAVE A 40 PERSON TEAM.

14 LAURA RUBY WHO I MENTIONED EARLIER IS A PROGRAM

15 MANAGER WITH THE ACCESSIBLE TECHNOLOGY GROUP.

16 THIS GROUP FOCUSES ON MAKING OUR PRODUCTS, PROGRAMS,

17 AND SERVICE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES

18 TO. SHARE WITH YOU A QUOTE FROM OUR CHAIRMAN, BILL

19 GATELESS, HE SAID IN THE PAST THAT A COMPUTER IS ONE

20 OF THE MOST PROMISING ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGYS THAT

21 EXIST TODAY.

22 TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS QUOTE, I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH

23 YOU TWO EXAMPLES OF HOW MICROSOFT AS A COMPANY IS

24 COMMITTED TO MAKING OUR COMPANY ACCESSIBLE TO

25 INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES.


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1 THE FIRST EXAMPLE, THE PROGRAM WITHIN MICROSOFT

2 REFERRED TO AS THE MICROSOFT ACCESSIBILITY ADVISORS.

3 WHAT THIS PROGRAM ENTAILS IS THAT MIVOSOFT REALIZES

4 THE VAUBLT OF MAINTAINING A WHO PROVIDE US WITH

5 FEEDBACK AND EXPERTISE ON THE WAY TO BEST MEET THE

6 NEEDS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

7 THE SECOND EXAMPLE IS MICROSOFT'S INVOLVEMENT WITH

8 THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND HOW WE ASSISTED

9 IN PROPOSING THE.

10 TO MEET THE NEW PURCHASING REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION

11 508.

12 OUR DESIGN PHILOSOPHY IS ACCESSIBILITY IS

13 EVOLUTIONARY.

14 WE MUST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LATEST TECHNOLOGICAL

15 ADVANCES AND MAKE EACH VERSION OF AUR OUR PRODUCT

16 MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN THE LAST.

17 AN EXAMPLE OF THIS ARE SOME OF THE NEW ACCESSIBILITY

18 FEATURES WITHIN THE OFFICE XP PRODUCT, FOR EXAMPLE,

19 SPEECH INPUT IN WORD PLUS LIMITED CONTROL AND COMMAND

20 IN OFFICE AS WELL AS A NEW FORMAT CONSISTENCY CHECKER

21 AND RESOLUTION IN WORD.

22 WE BELIEVE THAT SECTION 508 IS GOOD FOR GOVERNMENT,

23 INDUSTRY, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

24 IT LEVELS THE PLAYING FIELD, IT MAKES ACCESSIBILITY A

25 COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE.


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1 AND ALLOWS INDUSTRY TO HELP GOVERNMENT HAVE CHOICES

2 WHEN PURCHASING ACCESSIBLE TECHNOLOGY.

3 OUR PRODUCT ACCESSIBLE BENCHMARKING PROCESS, I'M JUST

4 GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THAT.

5 WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS OUR JOB TO HELP OUR FEDERAL

6 CUSTOMERS TO COMPLY WITH THEIR NEW PURCHASING

7 REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION 508.

8 TO DO THIS WE MUST APPLY YOU WITH THE ACCESSIBILITY

9 INFORMATION YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE WISE

10 PURCHASING CHOICES.

11 AS MOST OF YOU KNOW MICROSOFT WORKS CLOSELY WITH THE

12 INDUSTRY COUNCIL, OUR INDUSTRY COLLEAGUES IN GSA TO

13 HELP DEVELOP THE VOLUNTARY ACCESSIBILITY TEMPLATE

14 WHICH WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.

15 THE V PAT ALLOWS VENDORS WHO CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE

16 THE ABILITY TO COPY THE TEMPLATE AND DESCRIBE HOW A

17 PARTICULAR PRODUCT OR SERVICE THEY OFFER CONFIRMS TO

18 SECTION 508 ACCESS BOARD STANDARDS.

19 WE HAVE CREATAD AN INTERNAL MICROSOFT PROCESS TO

20 SUPPORT THE V PAT.

21 WE DEVELOPED A TECHNICAL BENCHMARKING WORKSHEET THAT

22 ACCESS THE STANDARDS INTO A PRODUCT DESIGN PROCESS.

23 OUR PROCESS REQUIRES EVERY PRODUCT GROUP TO TEST AND

24 DOCUMENT HOW A PRODUCT SUPPORTS EACH OF THE SECTION

25 508 ACCESS BOARD STANDARDS.